Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast
Results 1 to 15 of 31

Thread: Notes from conditioning camp

      
  1. #1
    jnn123's Avatar
    Status : jnn123 is offline
    Rank : Superstar
    Join Date : Oct 17, 2009
    Posts : 2,954
    Threads : 197
    Last Online : Nov-10-2013 @ 11:50 AM

    Default Notes from conditioning camp

    Some semi-interesting stuff coming from the few players who were at conditioning camp. Already threw the note about a proposed Capps for Hardy deal in the other Capps trade topic. These things aren't a big deal, just guys taking physicals and doing a few light conditioning drills with some teammates.

    Players present:
    Matt Capps, Andy LaRoche, Lastings Milledge, Kevin Hart, Evan Meek, Delwyn Young, Steve Pearce, Craig Hansen, Jose Ascanio, Justin Thomas, Phil Dumatrait, Jeff Clement and Jonathan Van Every

    Some Andy LaRoche notes:
    From Dejan: LaRoche expressed no regret about the month he spent in Instructional League learning second base, even though the Pirates wound up acquiring Akinori Iwamura.

    "I was able to get some good work in, and having that experience never hurts," LaRoche said. "I thought it went pretty well."


    From Rob Biertempfel: It won’t be long before Pedro Alvarez takes over at third base, which will force Andy LaRoche to either find a new position — second base remains very much a possibility, even with Akinori Iwamura on the roster — or accept a greatly reduced role.

    Last month, while they both were at Instructional League in Bradenton, Fla., LaRoche pulled Alvarez aside for a private chat.

    “I (told him), ‘don’t feel uncomfortable around me. If you’re ready, we need you in the lineup. I’ll go play another position,’ ” LaRoche said. “I don’t want him to think I have any animosity toward him.”

    LaRoche got only a brief look at Alvarez at third base, but said the former first-round pick appears trim and athletic enough to handle the position.

    “He looks smooth over there,” LaRoche said. “He’s got a good, accurate arm. And, obviously, he rakes. Even if he’s not a Gold Glove-caliber third baseman, his offense more than makes up for it. I’m sure, as a worst-case scenario, he’ll be (like) Ryan Braun at third base. If he puts up numbers like Ryan Braun did, that’s great.”


    On Perry Hill:
    From Rob Biertempfel: LaRoche looked grim when he was asked about the departure of former infield instructor Perry Hill.

    “No comment on that,” LaRoche said. LaRoche added he would like to work out this winter with Hill, if the Pirates will permit it.

    According to the Palm Beach Post, the Florida Marlins wanted to re-hire Hill, but the Pirates would not give permission for Hill to interview for the job. The Pirates exercised Hill’s contract option for 2010, which means they can block him from working for another major-league team next year.


    Jeff Clement:
    From Rob Biertempfel: After he was traded to the Pirates, Jeff Clement played only first base for the first time in his career.

    “I’m not sure what the plan is, going into next spring,” Clement said. “But I’m hoping I still have a chance to catch. That’s where I’d like to be the most.”

    That could be an option if Ryan Doumit is traded, but it also would depend on Clement’s knees. Clement has had two minor surgeries to repair the meniscus.

    “If my knee can hold up, I’d love to catch, whether it’s as the everyday catcher or the backup,” Clement said.


    Kevin Hart:
    From Dejan: Hart, a late addition to the camp, sounded upbeat about the Pirates' immediate future. That included his own, after a rough time following the trade: "What a lot of us need, I think, is a fresh start. There's a lot of talent here, and you saw that at times last season. We played some good baseball, clean baseball in some games. But weren't consistent. We need a full spring training together."

    Hart is at full health after finishing the year shut down by a strained oblique.


    Evan Meek:
    From Dejan: Meek had an oblique issue, too, and remains on the 60-day disabled list, but he also pronounced himself 100 percent.

    As for that 100-mph fastball he vowed is coming next year: "Not in spring training. I'll save it for the season."


    Justin Thomas:
    From Dejan: Thomas, the left-handed reliever recently claimed off waivers from Seattle, welcomed the opportunity to enter what appears to be a wide-open race: "I just came off my first full year in the bullpen, my first full year in Triple-A, and I was streaky. My walks were terrible. But I also felt like I threw the ball well, for the most part, and I just need to get more consistent."

    Thomas, 25, had a 4.48 ERA in 53 appearances for Tacoma, including some unsightly splits: 1.48 ERA vs. lefties, 6.50 vs. righties, but the Pirates have told him -- as they tell all left-handers -- they are not interested in specialists.

    "That's fine," Thomas said. "I know I can get guys out from both sides."


    Spring Training:
    From Rob Biertempfel: Wednesday, the Pirates will release their 2010 spring training schedule. Pitchers and catchers report Feb. 18.

    Pirates will play 2 spring training games @ Philly/Citizens Bank Park April 2-3


    http://blog.triblive.com/bucco-blog/...sures-alvarez/
    http://community.post-gazette.com/bl...-in-trade.aspx

  2. #2
    Kipper's Avatar
    Status : Kipper is offline
    Rank : Legend
    Join Date : Oct 8, 2009
    Posts : 67,323
    Threads : 1817
    Last Online : Apr-25-2017 @ 08:36 PM
    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: Notes from conditioning camp

    A lot of good stuff in there.

    A pretty class act for Laroche to approach Pedro like that. A few years back, guys like Kendall and Giles would've found some flaw in the way Pedro looked and grilled him about it

  3. #3
    jnn123's Avatar
    Status : jnn123 is offline
    Rank : Superstar
    Join Date : Oct 17, 2009
    Posts : 2,954
    Threads : 197
    Last Online : Nov-10-2013 @ 11:50 AM

    Default Re: Notes from conditioning camp

    Let's just pray that his "Ryan Braun at third base" worst case scenario doesn't come true defensively. Braun was such an unbelievable disaster. I'd settle for Aramis Ramirez-type third base defense from him.

  4. #4
    wvkeeper's Avatar
    Status : wvkeeper is offline
    Rank : Major Leaguer
    Join Date : Oct 17, 2009
    Location : Right There
    Posts : 1,367
    Threads : 158
    Last Online : Nov-03-2016 @ 07:14 AM
    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: Notes from conditioning camp

    Andy LaRoche is my new favorite Pirate. That is Grade A awesomeness right there.

    “I (told him), ‘don’t feel uncomfortable around me. If you’re ready, we need you in the lineup. I’ll go play another position,’ ” LaRoche said. “I don’t want him to think I have any animosity toward him.”

  5. #5
    jnn123's Avatar
    Status : jnn123 is offline
    Rank : Superstar
    Join Date : Oct 17, 2009
    Posts : 2,954
    Threads : 197
    Last Online : Nov-10-2013 @ 11:50 AM

    Default Re: Notes from conditioning camp

    Probably not of too much interest to the average fan, but the Pirates lost a front office type today as well.

    > Bryan Minniti, who had been the Pirates' director of baseball operations under Neal Huntington, took the post of assistant general manager in Washington under Mike Rizzo. Minniti previously worked for Dave Littlefield as, essentially, his point man on baseball rules, waivers and the like. Under Huntington, he handled those issues but had additional responsibility, including accompanying the team on the road when Huntington did not.

    It's a nice advancement for the one guy who was competent enough that he managed to survive beyond the Littlefield years. Good for him.

  6. #6
    moneytalks's Avatar
    Status : moneytalks is offline
    Rank : Minor Leaguer
    Join Date : Oct 11, 2009
    Location : Pittsburgh
    Posts : 678
    Threads : 22
    Last Online : Oct-15-2012 @ 01:28 PM

    Default Re: Notes from conditioning camp

    Why am I sooooo tired of hearing about Perry Hill???

  7. #7
    Kipper's Avatar
    Status : Kipper is offline
    Rank : Legend
    Join Date : Oct 8, 2009
    Posts : 67,323
    Threads : 1817
    Last Online : Apr-25-2017 @ 08:36 PM
    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: Notes from conditioning camp

    Quote Originally Posted by jnn123 View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    Probably not of too much interest to the average fan, but the Pirates lost a front office type today as well.

    > Bryan Minniti, who had been the Pirates' director of baseball operations under Neal Huntington, took the post of assistant general manager in Washington under Mike Rizzo. Minniti previously worked for Dave Littlefield as, essentially, his point man on baseball rules, waivers and the like. Under Huntington, he handled those issues but had additional responsibility, including accompanying the team on the road when Huntington did not.

    It's a nice advancement for the one guy who was competent enough that he managed to survive beyond the Littlefield years. Good for him.
    i don't know. Im never sad to see guys that Littlefield hired in the office gone

  8. #8
    jnn123's Avatar
    Status : jnn123 is offline
    Rank : Superstar
    Join Date : Oct 17, 2009
    Posts : 2,954
    Threads : 197
    Last Online : Nov-10-2013 @ 11:50 AM

    Default Re: Notes from conditioning camp

    Here's the spring schedule:

    Feb 17 – Pitchers and catchers report
    Feb 22 – Position players report
    Feb 23 – Full-squad workouts

    March 2 State College of Florida Manatee (Manatee CC goes big time after their win last year)
    March 3 at Yankees
    March 4 at Braves
    March 5 at Orioles
    March 6 Phillies
    March 7 Minnesota (split squad)
    March 8 at Rays and vs. Yankees
    March 9 at Yankees
    March 10 Orioles
    March 11 Rays (split squad)
    March 12 at Braves
    March 13 at Red Sox
    March 14 Yankees
    March 15 Phillies
    March 17 Tigers
    March 18 at Twins
    March 19 Red Sox
    March 20 at Orioles (split squad)
    March 21 Rays (split squad)
    March 23 Astros
    March 24 Red Sox
    March 25 Braves
    March 26 at Astros
    March 27 Blue Jays
    March 28 at Phillies and at Rays
    March 29 Astros
    March 30 at Twins
    March 31 at Tigers
    April 1 at Phillies (Florida)
    April 2-3 at Phillies (Philadelphia)

  9. #9
    jnn123's Avatar
    Status : jnn123 is offline
    Rank : Superstar
    Join Date : Oct 17, 2009
    Posts : 2,954
    Threads : 197
    Last Online : Nov-10-2013 @ 11:50 AM

    Default Re: Notes from conditioning camp

    More from the camp. Delwyn is not pleased.

    Delwyn Young:
    Delwyn Young, almost invariably outspoken, has opted to stay mum on the team abandoning him at second base in favor of newly acquired Akinori Iwamura.

    "It is what it is," Young said. "I'm going to leave it at that. I'm taking the high route."

    Pressing a bit, I asked how he felt about management declaring that he would be a bench player because he had done well in that role.

    "It's the flip of a coin. Seth Smith hit .400 as a pinch-hitter in Colorado, but how often does that happen? Look at it this way: Do you want one good swing a game, or do you want four?"

    Young batted .266 after a brutal slump to finish his season, but he was a .316 pinch-hitter with a team-high 12 hits.


    Lastings Milledge:
    Left fielder Lastings Milledge acknowledged for the first time that his right hand - the one that shut him down for two months early in 2009, mostly before the trade - hampered his power. But he expressed optimism it will be back at full strength by next spring training's end.

    "The hand was healed, but it took a while to start getting the strength back," he said. "A lot of it's back now, and it was coming back late in the season. They told me all along it was going to take about a full year for it to be all the way back, so that would be just in time for next season."


    Jeff Clement again, from Dejan this time:
    Jeff Clement, the power-hitting Class AAA prospect acquired in the Jack Wilson trade, is planning to prepare for first base and catcher heading into spring training. He would like to be invited to minicamp as a catcher -- his position of choice -- but has not yet been informed about that by management.

    Clement had a strained oblique that pretty much wiped out his final month with Indianapolis, and that was aggravated on the season's final day. But he said that was now fine, as well as his long-troublesome left knee, which has been twice surgically repaired for a torn meniscus.

    "I want to give myself and the team the best options possible, so I'll prepare for first and catcher," Clement said. "If my knee holds up, I'd love to catch. But I'll do whatever they ask."


    Craig Hansen:
    Pitcher Craig Hansen got some good news Monday when doctors finally -- Or "Finally!" as he put it -- cleared him to begin re-teaching his arm how to throw. The nerves in his upper back have shown signs of regenerating, so he basically has to rebuild all of his upper-body strength and, slowly, gradually, work the arm and a throwing motion into it.

    "Still no timetable for anything, but I'll take it," Hansen said.

  10. #10
    Kipper's Avatar
    Status : Kipper is offline
    Rank : Legend
    Join Date : Oct 8, 2009
    Posts : 67,323
    Threads : 1817
    Last Online : Apr-25-2017 @ 08:36 PM
    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: Notes from conditioning camp

    im trying to figure out who we're playing more to replace the Reds who moved Arizona. I know we played the Reds a lot in spring training last year. Is the Orioles that moved into Sarasota?

  11. #11
    Kipper's Avatar
    Status : Kipper is offline
    Rank : Legend
    Join Date : Oct 8, 2009
    Posts : 67,323
    Threads : 1817
    Last Online : Apr-25-2017 @ 08:36 PM
    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: Notes from conditioning camp

    Quote Originally Posted by jnn123 View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    More from the camp. Delwyn is not pleased.

    Delwyn Young:
    Delwyn Young, almost invariably outspoken, has opted to stay mum on the team abandoning him at second base in favor of newly acquired Akinori Iwamura.

    "It is what it is," Young said. "I'm going to leave it at that. I'm taking the high route."

    Pressing a bit, I asked how he felt about management declaring that he would be a bench player because he had done well in that role.

    "It's the flip of a coin. Seth Smith hit .400 as a pinch-hitter in Colorado, but how often does that happen? Look at it this way: Do you want one good swing a game, or do you want four?"

    Young batted .266 after a brutal slump to finish his season, but he was a .316 pinch-hitter with a team-high 12 hits.


    [HIGH-LIGHT]I dont doubt it's always hard for a player to go from being a potential starter to bench guy. However, being a bench guy on the Pirates tends to get players more ab's than usual. [/HIGH-LIGHT]

    Lastings Milledge:
    Left fielder Lastings Milledge acknowledged for the first time that his right hand - the one that shut him down for two months early in 2009, mostly before the trade - hampered his power. But he expressed optimism it will be back at full strength by next spring training's end.

    "The hand was healed, but it took a while to start getting the strength back," he said. "A lot of it's back now, and it was coming back late in the season. They told me all along it was going to take about a full year for it to be all the way back, so that would be just in time for next season."


    [HIGH-LIGHT]That's the best news I've seen. I never really thought about his hand and how it would hold back his power. Added power from Milledge would be really nice next year and he did seem to be showing more power in that last month[/HIGH-LIGHT]

    Jeff Clement again, from Dejan this time:
    Jeff Clement, the power-hitting Class AAA prospect acquired in the Jack Wilson trade, is planning to prepare for first base and catcher heading into spring training. He would like to be invited to minicamp as a catcher -- his position of choice -- but has not yet been informed about that by management.

    Clement had a strained oblique that pretty much wiped out his final month with Indianapolis, and that was aggravated on the season's final day. But he said that was now fine, as well as his long-troublesome left knee, which has been twice surgically repaired for a torn meniscus.

    "I want to give myself and the team the best options possible, so I'll prepare for first and catcher," Clement said. "If my knee holds up, I'd love to catch. But I'll do whatever they ask."


    [HIGH-LIGHT]Dude, you're not catching, not with those knees. If Huntington has an brain cells left, he'll keep you from being a catcher cause although your knees might feel good now, catching is just going to **** them up again. Concentrate on 1B.[/HIGH-LIGHT]

    Craig Hansen:
    Pitcher Craig Hansen got some good news Monday when doctors finally -- Or "Finally!" as he put it -- cleared him to begin re-teaching his arm how to throw. The nerves in his upper back have shown signs of regenerating, so he basically has to rebuild all of his upper-body strength and, slowly, gradually, work the arm and a throwing motion into it.

    "Still no timetable for anything, but I'll take it," Hansen said.

    [HIGH-LIGHT]
    Teaching his arm how to throw again is not exactly a positive statement[/HIGH-LIGHT]

  12. #12
    jnn123's Avatar
    Status : jnn123 is offline
    Rank : Superstar
    Join Date : Oct 17, 2009
    Posts : 2,954
    Threads : 197
    Last Online : Nov-10-2013 @ 11:50 AM

    Default Re: Notes from conditioning camp

    Quote Originally Posted by Kipper View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    im trying to figure out who we're playing more to replace the Reds who moved Arizona. I know we played the Reds a lot in spring training last year. Is the Orioles that moved into Sarasota?
    Yeah, the Orioles took over the Reds Sarasota spot. They were in Ft. Lauderdale before.

  13. #13
    jnn123's Avatar
    Status : jnn123 is offline
    Rank : Superstar
    Join Date : Oct 17, 2009
    Posts : 2,954
    Threads : 197
    Last Online : Nov-10-2013 @ 11:50 AM

    Default Re: Notes from conditioning camp

    John Perrotto throws out another note on Clement on Twitter:

    jperrotto

    Met #Pirates 1B Jeff Clement today and he refreshingly admitted he's been an underachiever and it's basically now or never to make his mark.17 minutes ago from web

  14. #14
    Kipper's Avatar
    Status : Kipper is offline
    Rank : Legend
    Join Date : Oct 8, 2009
    Posts : 67,323
    Threads : 1817
    Last Online : Apr-25-2017 @ 08:36 PM
    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: Notes from conditioning camp

    Quote Originally Posted by jnn123 View Post
    This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
    Yeah, the Orioles took over the Reds Sarasota spot. They were in Ft. Lauderdale before.
    thats what i thought. i didnt really remember playing them that much last season. thanks

  15. #15
    jleisele58's Avatar
    Status : jleisele58 is offline
    Rank : All-Pro
    Join Date : Oct 17, 2009
    Location : Greensburg, PA
    Posts : 4,353
    Threads : 85
    Last Online : May-08-2017 @ 04:30 PM
    Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo Sports Logo

    Default Re: Notes from conditioning camp

    on Youngs comments: Please for the love of god understand that hitting very well for 1/2 of a season does not make you a potential starter, it makes you inconsistent. Which is exactly what NH is trying to cleanse the system of, inconsistent flashes of above average play that doesnt just dip to average, it falls into the basement and then tries to climb out by digging underneath it.

    It still seems like some of these guys just dont seem to get whats going on here. The team is in the process of rebuilding, and rebuilding EVERYTHING. If you want to play you show you can play everyday all season long. They ought to put a sign up in the clubhouse that says "you can never be just good enough for this team". Which i thought NH had already kinda stated in his no more scholarships statement. But i guess it takes time for some guys to get it.

Page 1 of 3 123 LastLast

Quick Reply Quick Reply

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Members who have read this thread: 0

There are no members to list at the moment.

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •