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    Steelers denied compensatory draft picks in upcoming NFL Draft
    March 25th, 2011

    Today the National Football League announced that 23 teams would be awarded a total of 32 compensatory choices in the 2011 NFL Draft. Many fans aren't even aware that there is such a thing as a compensatory draft selection, let alone that 'under the rules, a team which loses more or better compensatory free agents than it acquires in the previous year is eligible to receive compensatory draft picks'. The Pittsburgh Steelers are not one of the 23 teams selected, meaning they will be able to pick seven players - one in each round of the upcoming draft.

    It sounds unfair, and some fans and analysts feel that compensatory draft picks often favor teams who take advantage of the market, so to speak, by waiving free agents in order to rebuild using the draft. 21 compensatory draft picks were awarded to teams based on the system. Eleven additional picks were added at the end of the seventh round of the upcoming draft bringing the total number to 32 (identical to the number of teams in the league). Although the NFL Draft is often regarded as an equalizer between the league's top teams and those who've struggled during the previous season(s), the compensatory picks prove that there is nothing equal about it.

    According to the rules, the number of picks a team receives is equal to the net loss of compensatory free agents (up to a maximum of four players). The 32 compensatory picks announced today are meant to supplement the 221 choices in the seven rounds of the 2011 NFL Draft to be held April 28-30, 2011. The first round is scheduled for Thursday, April 28, at 8:00 p.m. ET. The second and third rounds are set for Friday, April 29, at 6"00 p.m. ET. Rounds four through seven will be held on Saturday, April 30, at 12:00 noon ET. The NFL has positioned the compensatory picks within the third through seventh rounds based on the value of the compensatory free agents that team lost.

    The NFL determines compensatory free agents using a formula based on salary, playing time and post-season honors. It was developed by the NFL Management Council. However, not every free agent lost or signed by a club is considered in the formula.

    The following list shows the teams who were awarded compensatory choices in the draft, who those teams lost, and how many they will get (choices per team):

    •Carolina Panthers - lost A.J. Feeley, Julius Peppers (3 picks)
    •Baltimore Ravens - lost Justin Bannan, Dwan Edwards (2 picks)
    •Minnesota Vikings - lost Artis Hicks, Chester Taylor (2 picks)
    •New York Giants - lost David Carr, Fred Robbins (2 picks)
    •Philadelphia Eagles - lost Jason Babin, Sean Jones (2 picks)
    •San Diego Chargers - lost Brandon Manumaleuna, Kassim Osgood (2 picks)
    •San Francisco 49ers - lost Arnaz Battle, Tony Pashos; signed David Carr (2 picks)
    •Tennessee Titans - lost Alge Crumpler, Kyle Vanden Bosch; signed Jason Babin (2 picks)
    •Arizona Cardinals - (1 pick)
    •Buffalo Bills - (1 pick)
    •Cincinnati Bengals - (1 pick)
    •Cleveland Browns - (1 pick)
    •Dallas Cowboys - (1 pick)
    •Denver Broncos - (1 pick)
    •Green Bay Packers -lost Aaron Kampman (1 pick)
    •Houston Texans - (1 pick)
    •Kansas City Chiefs - lost Wade Smith (1 pick)
    •Miami Dolphins - lost Nathan Jones, Jason Taylor; signed Karlos Dansby (1 pick)
    •New Orleans Saints - lost Scott Fujita; signed Jimmy Wilkerson (1 pick)
    Oakland Raiders - lost Cornell Green; signed Kyle Boller (1 pick)
    •Seattle Seahawks -lost Nate Burleson; signed Ben Hamilton (1 pick)
    •Tampa Bay Buccaneers - lost Will Allen, Jimmy Wilkerson; signed Sean Jones (1 pick)
    •Washington Redskins - (1 pick)
    This year three clubs (Oakland, New Orleans and Seattle) will each receive a compensatory pick even though they did not suffer a net loss of compensatory free agents last year. According to the 'formula', the compensatory free agents these three teams lost were ranked higher than the ones they signed (specified by a point differential based upon salary and performance). The eleven additional picks were awarded to Carolina, Buffalo, Cincinnati, Denver, Cleveland, Arizona, San Francisco, Tennessee, Dallas, Washington and Houston based on the 2011 draft selection order.

    Already upset, Steelers fans question choices by NFL

    If the NFL Draft has been the primary means for the weakest teams to make up for deficiencies and be able to compete with stronger franchises, Steelers fans do not 'get' why the Super Bowl XLV-winning Green Bay Packers would be awarded a compensatory pick in addition to its standard draft choices.

    "I felt like Pittsburgh was getting [explitive] by the NFL all last season (2009-2010)," said Jeremy Johnson. "Now it looks like they are getting it all over again."

    Traditionally teams and their fans have put there hopes for a better season on the draft choices their team makes. The NFL Draft once provided weaker franchises a step up, but the system has become a near mockery since the introduction of the compensatory draft pick system. The system now benefits strong teams at the expense of the teams who may need that assistance the most.

    In 2006, the San Diego Chargers held the NFL's best record by franchise at 14-2. They were awarded the highest compensatory draft pick (the 97th selection in the draft overall, at the end of the third round). Two teams received four compensatory choices; the Baltimore Ravens (13-3) and the New England Patriots (12-4). One team received three; the Indianapolis Colts (12-4 and Super Bowl Champions). Of the thirty-two compensatory draft choices awarded in the 2007 NFL Draft, eleven picks went to three teams with a combined win/loss record of 37-11. The Oakland Raiders (2-14) received two compensatory picks, and although one choice was the third-highest compensatory pick (99th overall in the draft), the other was the second-last pick in the draft (254th overall). The Detroit Lions (3-13) received a mere single compensatory draft pick; the 255th and final selection in that year's draft. Cleveland (4-12), Arizona, Washington and Houston got none even though they had losing seasons.

    "Based on my analysis of the statistics, the teams that are losing these compensatory free agents are actually the teams who can afford to do so and/or the strongest franchises in the league," Robert Greene wrote in an email message. "Obviously, that isn't always true. The Steelers have the second-best team in 2010 and they aren't getting zip. These rules are a slap in the face."

    Gary Martin observed, "The entire award system for compensatory draft picks was part of the CBA (collective bargaining unit) with the NFLPA. When the NFL lost their anti-trust case against the players' union a few years ago, free agency was born." He continued, "It's obvious that owners don't like free agency, so they try to eliminate it every time the bargaining agreement is up for renegotiation. The end result: 'restricted' free agents, 'franchise' tags, etc."

    Michael Brown asked, "This system rewards teams who don't re-sign their own players. It discourages players because their teams overlook their fan-following and worth to the other players near the end of their careers and dump them. I know owners do it. They do it so they don't have to pay the high salaries guaranteed by tagging them or re-negotiating contracts and extensions. They also discourage other teams from making a bid to pick up that player."

    "Watch the draft and free-agent market. You will see that the best players avoid signing with teams with bad win/loss records, especially those who've struggled for several years," Jack Peck wrote. "They want to play for a winning team. If they sign up with a team that isn't doing well, it's only because that team paid a hefty price to get them on board. You'll see good players sign for less just to play for a team they consider 'good'."

    Sad truths with few positives

    Rarely do you see a poor team use free agents to rebuild their franchise. Using the draft to rebuild is also becoming a lost art, making it difficult for struggling teams to get a leg up. Of course, the team with the worst record gets the cherished first pick in the draft, but that means they have to take a hit to the wallet due to the salary cap. The Cleveland Browns are a perfect example of this (1999, 2000, 2001).

    These days teams don't want to pay premium prices to move up in the draft, and many times successful teams will even 'draft down'. It is possible that the Steelers will do just that this season. The risk involved in this practice is that the player the Steelers have their eye on may not be available by the time it is their turn to pick. The Steelers have done fairly well in past drafts. 2010 proved that the organization had made wise choices when they picked up Emmanuel Sanders and Maurkice Pouncey.

    Pittsburgh has had 22 compensatory draft picks between 1994 and 2011. Their rivals, the Baltimore Ravens, have received the most in the NFL during that time period with 31. 1994 was the first year that compensatory draft choices were awarded.

    http://www.examiner.com/pittsburgh-s...ming-nfl-draft
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    The compensation formula is a mystery but not the reasons teams get "comps."

    Guys (and ladies), you get "comp" picks when you lose your FAs to other teams.

    We didn't lose anybody--before last season--for which we should be compensated.

    See the Panthers three picks because they lost Julius Peppers.

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    To me it seems the Steelers managed their players well and we didn't need to take a hit like other teams did with their personale. It might seem like we are not getting our pick but, it only comes from doing things right in the first place.

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    While I agree with you whole heartedly, the "comp system" was created just to provide some relief to teams that were unable to sign their own FAs the previous season.

    You can't get higher than a third, no matter who you lose, but those extra picks can help out.

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    While I agree with you whole heartedly, the "comp system" was created just to provide some relief to teams that were unable to sign their own FAs the previous season.

    You can't get higher than a third, no matter who you lose, but those extra picks can help out.

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    Default Re: Steelers denied compensatory draft picks in upcoming NFL Draft

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    The compensation formula is a mystery but not the reasons teams get "comps."

    Guys (and ladies), you get "comp" picks when you lose your FAs to other teams.

    We didn't lose anybody--before last season--for which we should be compensated.

    See the Panthers three picks because they lost Julius Peppers.
    I was just trying to recall if we'd lost anyone, let alone anyone who would merit compensatory picks. No need to be disgruntled about being a stable team. I tend to look at these situations and go forward with the belief that the Steelers will probably get the baseline only of any possible outcomes from the league. That way, I'm seldom disappointed and anything additional is a bonus. 30 days to the draft...
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    You're a wise man!

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    We lost 4th rd pick Thaddeus Gibson after he was waived to make room for a DE spot, the 49's signed him.

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