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    Default Mr Obvious Ron Cook - "When Sid Is Ready He Must Play".

    No Ron... when sid is ready to play, he should sit on the bench and watch and i am sure that Ray Shero and Dan Bylsma will encourage that too. do you honestly think he is practicing with his teams mates this late in the season so he can ride the bus to road games and sit and cheer in the press box when/if he could play?

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    Cook: When he's ready, Penguins' Crosby must play

    Sunday, April 03, 2011
    By Ron Cook, Pittsburgh Post-Gazette


    Heard all of the reasons Penguins star Sidney Crosby shouldn't play again this season.
    Not buying a single one.

    It's not worth the risk of another concussion that could threaten Crosby's career ...
    No one is suggesting Crosby should come back before it's the right time. He must be symptom-free and feel like his old self. All indications are that he's getting closer to that point. More than anything, we have to defer to his judgment. He knows his body best.

    Crosby's doctors also have to clear him to play. They know his brain best.
    Slowly but surely, they are allowing him to do more physical activity, the latest being practices with his teammates on non-contact days.

    The next and final step will be full practices where he certainly will be jostled and even hit while stick-handling the puck through heavy traffic or going into a corner to get a loose puck.

    If Crosby still feels fine after a few days of that, he has to play.

    They should hold Crosby out until next season just to be safe ...

    Really? You believe that? Where did you get your medical degree?

    When is the right time for a guy to play again after a concussion? How long is long enough to be off the ice recuperating? I don't know if anyone can answer those questions with absolute certainty. I know I can't.

    Sure, Crosby could be seriously injured again if he plays next week in the playoffs. But would his long-term health be guaranteed if he waits until October to play again? Of course not. I'm not sure he couldn't be hurt again then just as easily if he's hit the wrong way. You might have heard hockey is a physical, high-speed game.

    Crosby won't be 24 until Aug. 7. Should he take off next season just to be safe and to make sure he can play when he's 25? Of course not. I could go on and on like this. I think you get the point.

    Crosby has to trust how he feels and he has to believe in his doctors. He's a professional athlete, a well-compensated one at that at $8.7 million per season. He can't save himself for next season or the season after that. He has to play when he and the docs think it's time. Not a second before, to be sure. But not a second after, either.

    Not even Crosby can play at a high level after sitting out for three months ...
    I defer to Penguins winger Arron Asham on this point: "I'm pretty sure [Crosby] could lace them up tonight and play and be a force," he told the Post-Gazette's Shelly Anderson the other day. "He's just so much better than everyone else. He's just that talented."

    Crosby is the best player in the world. It's hard to predict he immediately would play as well as he did before he left the lineup after the Jan. 5 game against the Tampa Bay Lightning when he had 32 goals and 66 points in 41 games. But it's not hard to say he would be great.

    He really is that talented.

    You don't throw any player who has been out that long into the high-stress, high-intensity playoffs ...

    See rebuttal above.

    You don't mess with the chemistry of a winning team by adding any player in the playoffs ...

    Please.

    That's just ridiculous.

    It's true, the Penguins have something pretty special going on.
    They have played remarkably well not just without Crosby, but without injured Evgeni Malkin.

    It's a tribute to coach Dan Bylsma, who clearly has his players buying into his standard-is-the-standard message.

    "We're going into games expecting to win," defenseman Brooks Orpik said before losses last week to the Philadelphia Flyers and Lightning. "It just seems like the overall energy is better going down the stretch this year."

    Adding Crosby to the mix wouldn't hurt anything. It could only help.
    The other players adore him. He's their captain and they loyally follow him.
    The instant Crosby gets back on the ice, he would help an offense that had scored just five regulation goals in its previous five games before the game last night against the Florida Panthers.

    He would help a sick power play that was 3-for-64 in the previous 19 games. He would help new linemate James Neal, who had just one regulation goal in 17 games since joining the Penguins in a trade Feb. 21.

    There are no -- absolutely no -- drawbacks to a Crosby return.

    The way the Penguins' defense is playing and goaltender Marc-Andre Fleury is stopping pucks, Crosby would put the team on the short list of legitimate Stanley Cup contenders.

    I'm still holding out hope it happens sooner rather than later, this spring rather than next fall.

    It should happen as long as ...

    Say it with me one more time.

    ... Crosby and the doctors agree the time is right.


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    t's not worth the risk of another concussion that could threaten Crosby's career .........

    They should hold Crosby out until next season just to be safe ..............
    Are people really saying either of these things? I've heard people say "they better be safe" or "they need to be careful" or **** like that but not either of the two above statements.

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    Are people really saying either of these things? I've heard people say "they better be safe" or "they need to be careful" or **** like that but not either of the two above statements.
    I haven't heard of any of this stuff. Ray Shero made a comment recently about Sid not being in playoff playing shape but I haven't heard or seen anything about holding Sid out so that they don't risk another concussion. I mean, if you're going to feel and think like that, just throw Jean-Sebastian Giguere's goalie pads on the kid.

    You can't protect the hell out of your $8.7 million investment and when he's of use not use him when it's most important. That would be a bad investment. It would be like buying a piece of fine art if fine art didn't mature in value. Crosby's value decreases with maturity and with every scratch and dent. So use him.

    I think Ron cook just made **** up so he could find something to throw together in 10 minutes and collect a paycheck he barely earns
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    Default Re: Mr Obvious Ron Cook - "When Sid Is Ready He Must Play".

    I agree with Cook, but Cook is stating the obvious. However, I have heard talk show hosts say that Crosby should just wait till next season.

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    I agree with Cook, but Cook is stating the obvious. However, I have heard talk show hosts say that Crosby should just wait till next season.
    But what is the reason why? I've heard some say he should wait too but it's mainly because they feel he's too rusty and not in shape for playoff play rather than it be to risk another concussion
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    I agree with Cook, but Cook is stating the obvious. However, I have heard talk show hosts say that Crosby should just wait till next season.
    Don Cherry said so much on Saturday's Coach's Corner. He showed video of what happened to Lindros the game he decided to come back! ...Some NJ Devil drilled him right in the head!!!

    IMO, they're not winning the cup with or without Sid this season. They may go another round or two with Sid, but at some point... not having Geno (and other deficiencies) will factor in. So much would have to happen to overcome that... it's not likely in best of seven series the Pens will overcome.

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    Don Cherry said so much on Saturday's Coach's Corner. He showed video of what happened to Lindros the game he decided to come back! ...Some NJ Devil drilled him right in the head!!!

    IMO, they're not winning the cup with or without Sid this season. They may go another round or two with Sid, but at some point... not having Geno (and other deficiencies) will factor in. So much would have to happen to overcome that... it's not likely in best of seven series the Pens will overcome.
    I think with sid we have a good chance of reaching the finals because we add a legit top line center and the ability to score more than 1-2 goals against good teams. Sids return balances lines a little better as well and makes the bottom 2 lines that much better. We also arent defensively desperate like we are now from a psychological standpoint. Taking some pressure off of the defense should make the defense better. Also the more orpik plays the quicker him and letand return to earlier season dominance and that makes the defense better.

    Sid is a big domino. I just wont go beyond good chance without geno.

    As always though the most important player on our team in the playoffs will always be marc andre fleury. With or without sid MAF cant play like he did in the 2010 playoffs or we are done just as soon
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    Don Cherry said so much on Saturday's Coach's Corner. He showed video of what happened to Lindros the game he decided to come back! ...Some NJ Devil drilled him right in the head!!!

    That's mostly because Lindros skated constantly with his head down. That's what got him in concussion trouble to begin with. Sid doesn't do that so he has that going for him. Which is nice.

    I like our chances if Sid comes back and plays at his normal level but that's a mighty big if at this point.

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