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    Default Baseball America takes Rendon for the Bucs (Yayy)

    John Manuel, Jim Callis and Conor somebody.

    1. PIRATES (John): Pittsburgh has flubbed the No. 1 pick before, with Kris Benson in 1996 (who wasn't a bust but was never quite a frontline starter, either) and Bryan Bullington (over B.J. Upton) in 2002. This draft will be hard to flub, though, because both Rice third baseman Anthony Rendon and UCLA righthander Gerrit Cole look like future stars. I'm taking Rendon here, despite his past ankle injuries and current shoulder problem. I'm confident in his bat and his defense, reports on his makeup are outstanding, and his injuries don't appear to be long-term issues. Rendon's all-fields ability should make him a righthanded hitter who can thrive at PNC Park, which is better suited for lefty bats. For Pitrates fans worried about infield overload, Pedro Alvarez can easily move to first base as soon as Rendon is ready, because Rendon is better with the glove and Alvarez projects to have enough power to profile at first.

    2. MARINERS (Conor): I too would have picked Rendon No. 1. But, if I'm the Mariners, I'm fine with whatever decision the Pirates make because the top two guys are neck and neck. I know Seattle fans are clamoring for a future infield of Anthony Rendon, Nick Franklin, Dustin Ackley and Justin Smoak, but a future rotation of Felix Hernandez, Gerrit Cole and Michael Pineda is just as enviable. With Cole's top-shelf stuff and big-game experience in the College World Series and with Team USA, that trio could be a reality by late 2012.

    3. DIAMONDBACKS (Jim): For what it's worth, I also would have taken Rendon for the Pirates and whoever remained between him and Cole for the Mariners. My decision here at No. 3 is much more difficult, because there are so many talented options to choose from. It's too early to know much about which teams are zeroing in on which players, but Arizona has been linked to Virginia lefthander Danny Hultzen (its 10th-round pick in 2008) for much of the spring. Kansas high school outfielder Bubba Starling has the highest ceiling in the draft, but I don't think it's realistic that the Diamondbacks would spend what it takes to buy him away from a scholarship to play quarterback at Nebraska when it has to sign the No. 7 choice as well. The easy call is to take a college pitcher, but which one? I'm tempted by Hultzen and Vanderbilt righthander Sonny Gray, but I'll take Georgia Tech lefthander Jed Bradley, who has better all-around stuff.

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    I think they'd be nuts to not take Rendon. Elite position player > Elite pitcher, as they play every day. Not to mention we have a pretty solid amount of pitching in the farm, while we don't have any elite position players. A Cutch/Tabata/Walker/Rendon/Alvarez/Jones lineup looks very good on paper.

    Pedro can't play third, it's just not in the cards. He's made so many horrible mistakes, despite making a few highlight plays in the process. While you could deal with his bad defense, because of his bat, if there's a better third baseman available, you'd be dumb not to take him and shift Pedro over to first.

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    Hopefully PA's bat will 'play' at 1b

    Couldn't resist.

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    I hope PA isn't developing into a classic platoon player who can't hit lefties. I'm optimistic that doesn't happen. But can he hit for an .850 + OPS with 30/100 power? That's what we need in a first baseman. Rendon seems like he'll beat least a Ryan Zimmerman type, hopefully an Evan Longhoria type. Hopefully.

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    Peter Gammons suggested that the Pirates could take Danny Hultzen on The Fan today.

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    How many lefty power hitters walk into the league and can hit lefties right away? It's a rarity. I think he'll be exactly the type of hitter we expect him to be. I don't know why some are turning on him already.

    If you put him and Rendon in the same lineup, it's going to be dangerous.

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    Peter Gammons suggested that the Pirates could take Danny Hultzen on The Fan today.
    If they don't take Rendon or Cole, they're digging their own grave.

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    If they don't take Rendon or Cole, they're digging their own grave.
    Agree!!

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    At least in the eyes of the media in Pittsburgh.

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    Like I said in the Pedro thread... everyone will say the should take Rendon...

    And if he (or Cole) is not a superstar.... then we will be talking again what a bad GM NH is...

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    Peter Gammons suggested that the Pirates could take Danny Hultzen on The Fan today.
    has Gammons really become that out of touch with the draft/college and highschool prospects?
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    Quote Originally Posted by jnn123 View Post
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    Peter Gammons suggested that the Pirates could take Danny Hultzen on The Fan today.
    WTF! The left handed John Van Benschoten? ...Really?
    (Okay....maybe not a true comparison....BUT...)

    If this report is true....Gammons has lost his mind.

    I used to like his takes and such BUT he is more vomit inducing than ever.

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    If they don't take Rendon or Cole, they're digging their own grave.
    The last guy was sent to walk the plank after he picked Moskos over Wieters. No organization could be stupid enough to do it all over again.

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    Not to mention I don't see how you take elite pitching prospect over elite offense/defense infield prospect. Cole isn't getting Strasburg-hype. We have four potential All-Star quality position players, with Cutch/Tabata/Walker/Pedro. Cutch has already proven he's legit, in my opinion. Tabata is on his way. Walker proves he can at least be a solid MLB player, if not great. Pedro is struggling. The outcome of this, so far this year? Our offense SUCKS. There isn't a position player on this team that has the pedigree of Anthony Rendon. This is must-draft territory. If for some reason he busts? Oh well, you gave it a shot, you had scouts saying they'd take Rendon over BRYCE HARPER if they were in the same draft. Picking him at 1 is most definitely warranted, nobody can knock that move whether it succeeds or fails.

    We're decently stocked on young pitching in our farm, as it is. Who knows how good it is until after this year, we'll see. But I think they can wait another year before drafting a pitcher in the first round again.

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    Curtain.....latest on Cole:

    Gerrit Cole, RHP, UCLA
    Cole has surrendered 11 earned runs on 18 hits in his past 14 1/3 innings, but at this stage there's no real concern about what he is -- a potential No. 1 starter with ace-level stuff and enough command to support it.

    Cole's stuff has been flat, likely caused by a temporary mechanical flaw. He appears to be healthy, still touching the 95-97 mph range with his four-seam fastball. His changeup hasn't been the plus offering it has been for most of the spring, but we're calling this a simply bump in the road for the top pitcher in the class.

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