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    Default Dejan: Gerrit Cole is No. 1

    I thought this deserved its own thread.

    Dejan says he is "hearing" the Pirates will select Gerrit Cole. Implicitly, hearing=insider info.

    He gives the reasoning behind this likely choice at the plus site:
    http://plus.sites.post-gazette.com/i...l-cole-is-no-1

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    Default Re: Dejan: Gerrit Cole is No. 1

    Charlie at BD had this to say about Dejan's report:

    "This is the most-likely-to-be-accurate info we're going to get until they make the pick. It appears to boil down to the Pirates' concern over Rendon's shoulder--it's been reported elsewhere that doctors consider it "yellow," as opposed to "red" or "green"--and the fact that Cole has a much higher ceiling than Hultzen."
    http://www.bucsdugout.com/

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    Default Re: Dejan: Gerrit Cole is No. 1

    Yellow is Good?

    Pls take RENDON Mr H....otherwise you'll regret it.

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    Default Re: Dejan: Gerrit Cole is No. 1

    Quote Originally Posted by tocchet92 View Post
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    Charlie at BD had this to say about Dejan's report:

    "This is the most-likely-to-be-accurate info we're going to get until they make the pick. [HIGH-LIGHT]It appears to boil down to the Pirates' concern over Rendon's shoulder--[/HIGH-LIGHT]it's been reported elsewhere that doctors consider it "yellow," as opposed to "red" or "green"--and the fact that Cole has a much higher ceiling than Hultzen."
    http://www.bucsdugout.com/

    What have I been saying all along about Rendon.....

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    Default Re: Dejan: Gerrit Cole is No. 1

    Would I have taken Strasburg first, two years ago,......yes.

    Would I have taken Strasburg if Bryce Harper was also available? Hmmmmmm?

    Pitchers scare me and while Cole may be special, I worry about arm problems.

    Also, we need some quality position players who can hit and for power, so--with some qualms--I say "Rendon, Rendon, Rendon."

    (I am sure that my endorsement will mean the Bucs take a pitcher.)

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    Default Re: Dejan: Gerrit Cole is No. 1

    You can always trade pitchers for bats.

    *Bartolo Colon*

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    Default Re: Dejan: Gerrit Cole is No. 1

    I know a lot of people don't like Cole, and if you look at his numbers this year you can understand why. I'm actually on board with this, though, as basically everyone in the scouting community says he's for real. He tends to be around the zone a little too much and find too much of the plate at times. I think he could also benefit from better pitch calling. I actually wouldn't be surprised if he's one of the rare guys who puts up better numbers in pro ball than in college. His changeup could be Lincecum/Hamels/Santana/(whoever else has a great changeup) quality.

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    Default Re: Dejan: Gerrit Cole is No. 1

    Baseball America's experts have, as of today, the Bucs taking Rendon.

    Huntington said that he sees no purpose in 'advertising' his pick, so how could DK's source know?

    Pls take Rendon, Mr H.

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    Default Re: Dejan: Gerrit Cole is No. 1

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    Huntington said that he sees no purpose in 'advertising' his pick, so how could DK's source know?
    DK's source is presumably within the front office. His many years as a beat writer garnered him connections within Pirates org. We cannot know for sure this his sources are right, but if anyone would know, it would probably be Dejan.

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    Default Re: Dejan: Gerrit Cole is No. 1

    I have to agree with tocchet. I don't know if DK is right but I would trust his info more than any other source.

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    Default Re: Dejan: Gerrit Cole is No. 1

    I'm hearing now that Rendon has structural damage in his shoulder. BucsDugout is all over it. He could even drop out of the first round. May be a major risk?

    Hmmmmmmmmmmm

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    Default Re: Dejan: Gerrit Cole is No. 1

    So that means Cole is the easy choice for the Pirates. I don't like it, I think it's bad luck. Of all the years we have to get the number one pick, it's a year without a clear number one. Sucks.

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    Default Re: Dejan: Gerrit Cole is No. 1

    Just remember this about "sure thing pitchers," JVB, working somewhere today in the Yankee's minor leagues, and Bryan Bullington, toiling for the Tokyo Carp.

    Unless Foo's sources are absolutely certain about structural damage to Rendon (if docs can do TJ surgery, they can fix shoulders and ankles), I repeat Rendon, Rendon, Rendo!

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    Default Re: Dejan: Gerrit Cole is No. 1

    Neither of those guys you mentioned had the upside of Cole, they were drafted cheap to be middle of the rotation starters at best.

    I don't think anyone is saying Cole is a sure thing. But he has the best stuff, and the Pirates want the BPA. If Rendon has too many health issues, then that is Cole. Cole has been the other consensus pick with Rendon for the past 6 months, so it's not like we're reaching or being stupid, should we take him.

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    Default Re: Dejan: Gerrit Cole is No. 1

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    Neither of those guys you mentioned had the upside of Cole, [HIGH-LIGHT]they were drafted cheap[/HIGH-LIGHT] to be middle of the rotation starters at best.
    This is factually incorrect. Both Bullington and JVB were not drafted because they would sign cheap.

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