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    Default Verducci: The Failure Rate of 1st round pitchers

    Well, ain't this d**n depressing.

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    Default Re: Verducci: The Failure Rate of 1st round pitchers

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    Well, ain't this d**n depressing.

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    Of our 'big four', I'll be happy if two of them make it. Three or more....heaven.
    Not many pitchers get taken #1 overall, not since 1999 --- > http://www.pittsburghsportstavern.co...ad.php?t=11070

    There have been some hits #2 overall with Beckett and Verlander and the failures of Bullington and Prior but to be fair.. Bullington was a reach at #1. He wasn't expected to be a #1. Hochever and Reynolds are probably busts at this stage.

    Tough to really gauge. Yes, pitchers are a gigantic risk taken in the Top 3. The chances of them ever reaching their potential isn't very good but it's also not a huge sample size and there's also a mix of pitchers in there that were reaches as well. The guys that were slotted based on expectations for those spots are probably a little better results wise I'd think (would need to see all of the BA, Law, BP, Mayo predictions before all of those drafts.

    But yeah, I'd be happy if we get 1 ace out of this. If we get 2, it will be ridiculously impressive. We'll see how the org does with pampering these arms which is what it will take. Pampering Cole's arm, making sure Taillon and Heredia's arms are used the right amount etc...
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    Default Re: Verducci: The Failure Rate of 1st round pitchers

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    Not many pitchers get taken #1 overall, not since 1999 --- > http://www.pittsburghsportstavern.co...ad.php?t=11070

    There have been some hits #2 overall with Beckett and Verlander and the failures of Bullington and Prior but to be fair.. Bullington was a reach at #1. He wasn't expected to be a #1. Hochever and Reynolds are probably busts at this stage.

    Tough to really gauge. Yes, pitchers are a gigantic risk taken in the Top 3. The chances of them ever reaching their potential isn't very good but it's also not a huge sample size and there's also a mix of pitchers in there that were reaches as well. The guys that were slotted based on expectations for those spots are probably a little better results wise I'd think (would need to see all of the BA, Law, BP, Mayo predictions before all of those drafts.

    But yeah, I'd be happy if we get 1 ace out of this. If we get 2, it will be ridiculously impressive. We'll see how the org does with pampering these arms which is what it will take. Pampering Cole's arm, making sure Taillon and Heredia's arms are used the right amount etc...
    To be fair, Prior was a **** good pitcher until Dusty Baker burnt him up.

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    To be fair, Prior was a **** good pitcher until Dusty Baker burnt him up.
    Very true. Same can be said of Kerry Wood too.
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    Default Re: Verducci: The Failure Rate of 1st round pitchers

    am I off-base in thinking there've been a higher % of top-10 pitchers succeeding in the last 10 years as opposed to the 20 years before? just seems to me like I'm hearing about more high draft pitchers showing up on ML rosters than we used to...know the list is long...and the potential that died along the way is maddening. Always wondered what Bobby Bradley could've done if his arm didn't totally fall apart; I'm sure there are many, many others, too.

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    Default Re: Verducci: The Failure Rate of 1st round pitchers

    I think regarding Cole, it's more of a question of can he stay healthy. Nobody is questioning how good his stuff is. How many of the top pick pitchers that turned out to be failures had Cole's type of stuff or better? All of them?

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