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    Agent: Jagr 'loves that team, city... Mario' By Rob Rossi, PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW
    Wednesday, June 22, 2011
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    A longing to reconnect with the Penguins could be part of what brings back legendary forward Jaromir Jagr.

    "He loves that team, that city," agent Petr Svoboda said Tuesday from the Czech Republic. "And he loves Mario (Lemieux), so that is all on his mind."

    The opportunity to win the Stanley Cup and return to the NHL after three years of playing professionally in Russia has positioned the perennial contender Penguins and Detroit Red Wings as frontrunners to land Jagr, Svoboda said.
    Svoboda said he was expecting a second conversation with Penguins general manager Ray Shero regarding Jagr on Tuesday.

    "My (first) talk with Ray was wonderful," Svoboda said. "Jaromir obviously is fond of Pittsburgh, but he likes the current situation there, too."

    Neither Jagr nor Shero could be reached for comment, but Jagr told ESPN.com:
    "In Pittsburgh, I played there 10 years," he said. "I still have a house there. I was too lazy to sell it.

    "Obviously (Lemieux) is the owner. The team they got Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin, plus other great players if I went there, it would be a lot easier.

    "But on the other side, Detroit has great players and plays closer to my style, a Euro style. That's a plus. And (Nicklas) Lidstrom is there, plus (Pavel) Datsyuk and (Henrik) Zetterberg - great, great players."

    Jagr owns a house in Upper St. Clair, where his five miniature Art Ross trophies for winning NHL scoring titles are stored, according to former Penguin Petr Sykora.

    The Penguins believe Jagr is asking for at least $2 million on a one-year deal. They are committed to $55.5 million against the salary cap for 17 players on guaranteed NHL contracts. The cap will be $64 million next season, according to Canada's TSN.
    Penguins coach Dan Bylsma, speaking hypothetically about Jagr at the NHL Awards in Las Vegas, described him as "intriguing" and cited his 75 points with the Rangers in his last NHL season.

    "That's leading our team last year," Bylsma said. "That's an intriguing thing to think about -- a power-play guy; what you saw him do in the world championship against NHL-caliber players was nothing short of outstanding.

    "Those are intriguing things to think about hypothetically, and it's tough not to think about adding 75 points to your roster if that's something you're capable of doing."

    Svoboda did not identify a timetable for a deal with Jagr, who can sign with an NHL team at any time because his last contract was with Russia's Kontinental Hockey League.

    Svoboda said Jagr's former Penguins teammate Robert Lang was trying to establish communication via phone between Jagr and Lemieux.

    Jagr has often cited Lemieux as "the best player ever" and his "idol." They were teammates from 1990-97 and in 2000-01.

    "We talked a lot about that (Monday), just Jaromir and I speaking about his days with the Penguins," Svoboda said. "Playing again in Pittsburgh is obviously something that's on Jaromir's mind, but I wouldn't say it's the main factor. The main factor for him is having a chance to win again."

    Notes: Crosby and Malkin ranked first and fifth respectively in NHL jersey sales for last season, according to Sports Business Daily. Marc-Andre Fleury (10th) and Kris Letang (17th) also rated among the top 20. ... The Penguins are not close on a new deal with restricted free agent Tyler Kennedy.


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    $2 million per year? JFC why isn't Jagr signed already? ****ing Max Talbot was rumored to be asking for that, Tyler Kennedy will probably get that in Arb....

    Do It.

    Reading Bylsma's comments he sounded like he was trying to hold back a boner. You can tell that he was drooling over the prospects of adding Jagr to the lineup.

    $2 million would be less than what we paid Miroslav Satan per season.

    This would also possibly force Staal back to the 3rd line unless they throw him on 2nd Line LW since a log jam of right wingers would be created with Jagr and forcing Malkin to play wing.

    Either way, a Top 6 of ...

    Kunitz - Crosby - Neal
    ?? - Malkin - Jagr

    That would be filthy especially considering how good our defense was last year before it melted in the playoffs.
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    Now if we can just get Neal to hit the net.


    I have a hard time believing Jagr is only asking for $2 mil but I agree. If that is his asking price get it done.

    Especially since the cup goes up to 64 mil.

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    I agree. A 1-yr deal should be very workable. However, I get skeptical when I see numbers being thrown around like this. Even for Jagr's age, $2 mill seems a bit light.

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    Now if we can just get Neal to hit the net.


    I have a hard time believing Jagr is only asking for $2 mil but I agree. If that is his asking price get it done.

    Especially since the cup goes up to 64 mil.
    I think Neal will be fine once he gets the chance to play with a center that belongs in the Top 6. Neal and moreso Kovalev depend on having at least an adequate Center. I have faith in Neal with Crosby.

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    I agree. A 1-yr deal should be very workable. However, I get skeptical when I see numbers being thrown around like this. Even for Jagr's age, $2 mill seems a bit light.
    I thought this as well, but Rob Rossi wouldn't through out number figures like this if he didn't get them from a source with the Pens. If it were some random internet source I'd be more skeptical but the Pens beat writer IMO probably doesn't announce figures publicly like this unless he feels he's got a reliable source.

    I hope so.

    It does seem very cheap to me but Jagr seems like hes more interested in winning the Stanley Cup. At his age and with having won a cup since 1991 perhaps money isnt the biggest issue
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    If Jagr only wants a 1 year deal, it sounds to me like he wants to play one season and retire. Why not do that in Pittsburgh?

    The reason Jagr hasn't been signed already is because he hasn't played in the NHL since 2008. Sure he has decent numbers playing 55 games a season in a league full of hasbeens and wannabee's. Yes he looked good in the World Championships against a lot of backups and goalies like Ty Conklin. But can Jagr be successful against everyday NHL talent, for 60+ games during the regular season and still have something left for the playoffs? That's a big question mark. Unfortunately the Cap-strapped Pens and Shero have to think twice before throwing $2 million dollars at a question mark.

    IMO, Jagr would be an instant fan favorite in Pittsburgh and would have a long honeymoon period, even if he got off to a slow start. Not sure he'd find that in Detroit. They all remember Hossa and Modano.

    Unless Ray Shero has something up his sleeve (not named Jagr) that the $2 Million is already earmarked for, I agree with you all.... Sign Jagr ASAP!

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    I could be wrong, but for some reason I don't think the Players Union or the CBA would let Jagr sign for $2mil. Isn't there some sort of minimum salary that you are required to pay players of certain pedigree and experience?
    The only player in the NHL more overpaid than MAF is Jordan Staal

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    If Jagr only wants a 1 year deal, it sounds to me like he wants to play one season and retire. Why not do that in Pittsburgh?

    The reason Jagr hasn't been signed already is because he hasn't played in the NHL since 2008. Sure he has decent numbers playing 55 games a season in a league full of hasbeens and wannabee's. Yes he looked good in the World Championships against a lot of backups and goalies like Ty Conklin. But can Jagr be successful against everyday NHL talent, for 60+ games during the regular season and still have something left for the playoffs? That's a big question mark. Unfortunately the Cap-strapped Pens and Shero have to think twice before throwing $2 million dollars at a question mark.

    IMO, Jagr would be an instant fan favorite in Pittsburgh and would have a long honeymoon period, even if he got off to a slow start. Not sure he'd find that in Detroit. They all remember Hossa and Modano.

    Unless Ray Shero has something up his sleeve (not named Jagr) that the $2 Million is already earmarked for, I agree with you all.... Sign Jagr ASAP!
    Mark Recchi is still finding a way to keep going at an older age and Jagr has far more talent. Jagr was always fairly in shape too so I don't know if I wold have too many reservations about him. Perhaps he doesn't put up 70 points, which at 39-40 would be outstanding but he should be able to put up 60 points especially considering that would be 10-11 more than what Jordan Staal averages. Jagrcould rack up assists or goals playing with Sid or Geno if he can stay healthy and adapt back to the speed and physicality of the NHL game and Bylsma's system.

    What is the free agency list for wingers?

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    I could be wrong, but for some reason I don't think the Players Union or the CBA would let Jagr sign for $2mil. Isn't there some sort of minimum salary that you are required to pay players of certain pedigree and experience?

    I really don't know. a realy quick look at the CBA at nhl.com doesnt show anything but i know thats not the full version either since it seemed watered down.

    I can't imagine why there would be a clause like that though. It doesn't benefit anyone since the market generally will dictate salaries especially in a cap league.

    In general I really don't know without fishing through the PDF of the CBA
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    I think Neal will be fine once he gets the chance to play with a center that belongs in the Top 6. Neal and moreso Kovalev depend on having at least an adequate Center. I have faith in Neal with Crosby.
    I think you're right. It was just frustrating watching him missing on so many good chances in the playoffs. And when I mean miss I mean close/narrow misses. It's easy to see why Shero had a hard on for him. A lot of potential there.


    As for Jagr, Shero is quoted in the PG this morning as saying they (the Pens) have not made an offer yet.

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    An interesting blog about Jagr's Pros and Cons...

    http://blogs.sites.post-gazette.com/...-jagr-06-23-11

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    Jagr speaks with Penguins



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    By Josh Yohe
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    Thursday, June 23, 2011
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    Jaromir Jagr spoke with Penguins owner Mario Lemieux today.

    Lemieux came away encouraged by the conversation, according to sources.

    However, the Penguins have not made an offer and are not convinced that Jagr would be willing to play for less money in Pittsburgh. Detroit is also interested in Jagr and likely will offer the NHL's 9th all-time leading scorer more money.

    Penguins coach Dan Bylsma wants Jagr to play for the Penguins next season. There is, however, a debate within the organization regarding if Jagr, 39, call still be a top-six forward.

    Sources say general manager Ray Shero is not interested in paying much more than $1 million for Jagr's services. The Penguins are committed to roughly $55 million of salary next season, leaving them close to $9 million under the salary cap.

    The unknown factor in this situation is Lemieux, Jagr's former teammate and hockey idol. Jagr has been quite complimentary of Lemieux and the Penguins organization in recent years, and in 2009 said he "owes my hockey life" to Lemieux.


    Read more: Jagr speaks with Penguins - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pitt...#ixzz1Q7fotcNp

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    Sources say general manager Ray Shero is not interested in paying much more than $1 million for Jagr's services. The Penguins are committed to roughly $55 million of salary next season, leaving them close to $9 million under the salary cap.
    Are you ****ing kidding me? This is the same guy (Ray Shero) that has paid 4th liners like Max Talbot more than $1 million per season, the same guy that paid 35 year old Miroslav Satan $3.5 million per season over 2 years, gave 34 year old Matt Cooke a 3rd liner, $1.8 million per season over 3 years and won't budge beyond $1 million for Jaromir Jagr???? The same GM that continuously thinks that Jordan Staal is a Top 6 winger/player and overpaid him $4 million per season to be a 3rd line center PK Specialist?

    I mean, Mark Recchi made $1.7 million the past 2 seasons and he's 3-4 years older than Jagr.

    Passing on Jagr, pretending the Staal belongs in the Top 6 and ignoring a big upgrade for the Top 6 with near $9 million in cap space is idiotic, retarded, stupid, etc...

    The good thing here is that if Mario wants Jagr bad enough, he'll over ride Shero
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    So I'm on the sign Jagr bandwagon If Jordan Staal fails (again which I fully anticipate happening) to produce in a Top 6 role, we'll be left with little options for a wing around Malkin when they throw Staal back down to the 3rd line. Jagr on a short termer helps alleviate that issue if it happens and solidifies that line from the start. The backup if Staal fails can't be Dustin Jeffrey, Chris Conner, Mark Letestu.. none of those guys should touch the Top 6 unless it's an emergency situation like last season. If Staal fails, you throw Eric Tangradi or Nick Johnson on the 2nd line with Malkin and Jagr but you at least have Jagr there and Malkin won't be stuck having to produce on a 2nd line like a Top 5 player with AHL talent
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    I think you're right. It was just frustrating watching him missing on so many good chances in the playoffs. And when I mean miss I mean close/narrow misses. It's easy to see why Shero had a hard on for him. A lot of potential there.


    As for Jagr, Shero is quoted in the PG this morning as saying they (the Pens) have not made an offer yet.
    It was also Neal's first time in the playoffs too so perhaps he was more nervous and trying to put more pressure on his shoulders. He surely wasn't invisible like some players can be in the playoffs, he just wasnt finishing
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