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    I'm pretty ****ed.

    http://aol.sportingnews.com/nhl/stor..._graph_comment

    It was announced today that the Pens opted not to qualify Tyler Kennedy.

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    I would have liked to keep TFK but not for a ton of money. Max I love but the guy contributes very little outside of locker room presence. Yeah he came up big time in the Stanley but you can't keep him on roster forever just because of that. Get JJ and I won't be mad at anyone.

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    I would have liked to keep TFK but not for a ton of money. Max I love but the guy contributes very little outside of locker room presence. Yeah he came up big time in the Stanley but you can't keep him on roster forever just because of that. Get JJ and I won't be mad at anyone.
    Yeah but Kennedy wasn't even offered a deal and we'll see how much the team misses Talbot's jam.

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    Now I read the article. He turned down a 3 year deal? I would not be upset if Shero low balled him. A million is too much as it is. At least they made an offer. We will be fine without him.

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    Yeah but Kennedy wasn't even offered a deal and we'll see how much the team misses Talbot's jam.
    We will be fine without talbot. Give more room for some young guys to get a shot. TFK who knows what went on behind closed doors. Maybe TFK thinks he can get paid. If so more power to him.

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    I would have loved to keep them both as well, but i can imagine TK wanted to spread his wings some, he knows he would be kind of stuck as a 3rd liner here, and i would imagine he could play 1st or second line for a lesser team. Talbot, kind of shocked, maybe he just wants to see what he is worth outside pittsburgh. Shame to lose such popular role players, but that is what they are, role players, you cant just keep upping the salary for that type of player. Good luck to them both, i will be rooting for them as individuals, but seriously **** the teams they sign for

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    I like both Kennedy and Talbot, but as jleisle said, they are both role players and can be replaced easily and for less money by guys in our system (Tangradi and Jeffrey) or by cheaply acquired FAs....Not like we lost any top line guys...Hate to see ANY Penguin go to another organization, but that is life in the NHL....
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    Yeah, I'm not that surprised. Max was gone when Adams signed. TFK will make more money elsewhere, so it doesn't really matter what Shero offered... it wasn't going to be enogh, IMO.

    It will be interesting to see how they do elsewhere. I never wanted to give up Armstrong and Christiansen either, but the Pens have been fine without them.

    Thanks for the post stranger!

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    Pens plan to keep Kennedy, land Jagr
    By Josh Yohe and Rob Rossi, PITTSBURGH TRIBUNE-REVIEW
    Tuesday, June 28, 2011
    Where they stand

    A look at the Penguins' most relevant free agents:

    Tyler Kennedy: An unrestricted free agent, the Penguins would like to sign him before he can sign elsewhere starting Friday.

    Mike Rupp: He and the Penguins are in negotiations but remain apart on money.

    Pascal Dupuis: Length of contract appears the only thing preventing a deal.

    Max Talbot: The Penguins have no intention of bringing him back.


    The Penguins cut Tyler Kennedy loose Monday, but general manager Ray Shero said he wants to re-sign him before NHL free agency begins Friday.

    Shero also hopes to reach a tentative agreement on a one-year deal with Jaromir Jagr before Friday, industry sources told the Tribune-Review last night.

    Kennedy, a right winger, became an unrestricted free agent after the Penguins chose not to tender him a qualifying offer by a 5 p.m. deadline yesterday. Shero said that decision was made to avoid an arbitration hearing.

    "We want clarity in this situation. By doing this we get the most clarity," Shero said. "An arbitration hearing can go into early August. We want to know what's going on before then."

    Shero also said he planned to speak with Jagr's agent, Petr Svoboda, either last night or today. The

    Penguins aren't known to have made Jagr an offer as of last night, but team officials spent yesterday seriously considering the option of signing Jagr, sources said.

    Shero also said he wants one or both of two unrestricted free agent forwards -- Mike Rupp and Pascal Dupuis -- signed before Friday, when free agency begins at noon.

    Of the players Shero is targeting, only Jagr can't be signed before Friday per the NHL's collective bargaining agreement. However, Jagr's camp would like to have parameters of a deal worked out before Friday, sources said.

    Svoboda said last week the Penguins and Detroit are the top two contenders to sign Jagr, a right winger who last played in the NHL in 2008.

    If Friday arrives without Kennedy, Jagr, Dupuis and/or Rupp signed, the Penguins will turn their attention to available free agents to fill out their roster.

    "We have a replacement list," Shero said.

    The Penguins are approximately $8 million under the salary cap for next season.

    Shero stressed that he didn't believe heading to arbitration with Kennedy was a wise move, insisting Kennedy "had a good case."

    Kennedy, 24, saw his ice time increase because of injuries to Penguins stars Sidney Crosby and Evgeni Malkin in the second half of the regular season. He responded with a career-high 21 goals.

    "(Kennedy) wants to come back," Shero said. "And we certainly want him back."

    A qualifying offer would have provided Kennedy only a 10 percent raise on his previous salary ($725,000), per the CBA. Kennedy`s camp expects he can at least double that annual salary and score a multiyear deal on the open market.

    Kennedy was a restricted free agent until yesterday. If the Penguins had tendered him a qualifying offer, he still could have signed with a another club Friday, but the Penguins would have had a week to match or receive compensatory picks if they opted to decline.

    By not tendering Kennedy an offer, the Penguins will relinquish his rights come Friday, as they will with Rupp, Dupuis and other unrestricted free agents such forward Max Talbot.

    Shero said Talbot, who has turned down a three-year offer from the Penguins, would test the market Friday.
    Shero is optimistic about Kennedy's return, and coach Dan Bylsma is downright enthusiastic about the possibility of adding Jagr -- a five-time scoring champion in his 11 seasons with the Penguins from 1990-2001.

    "I've been on the record a few times saying what the attributes of Jaromir Jagr are," Bylsma said. "They're still really good."

    Bylsma also addressed any concerns that Jagr, 39, would struggle adapting to the Penguins' up-tempo style.

    "If Jaromir Jagr, hypothetically, were to (sign with the Penguins), I don`t think we`d have to change everything drastically," Bylsma said, "If you watched Jaromir play in the World Championships, his down-low play was outstanding. He hasn't missed a beat in that regard."

    Bylsma acknowledged that he isn't sure what to expect as the week plays out.

    "It's a frantic time," he said.

    Read more: Pens plan to keep Kennedy, land Jagr - Pittsburgh Tribune-Review http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pitt...#ixzz1QYwhv0RD

    Shero just wants to avoid arbitration because he knows he'd lose. With the year TK had he'd probably get $2 mil or a bit more if it went to arbitration. This way Shero can (possibly) sign him to something like a 3 year $4.5 mil.

    Of course Cooke got $1.8 per so TK might get a bit more.
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    What? ...No mention of trying to sign Brad Richards for $1 million per season??

    I'm disappointed!

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    Acceptable.

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    Ughhh, why are you guys being logical about this!

    Yes yes, I know all that but man, hurts losing Max. And I really thought TFK should have come back. He still can.

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    I'm hearing they want to keep Dupuis.....and my only question is why?????

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    I'm hearing they want to keep Dupuis.....and my only question is why?????
    He is actually a pretty good forward for them. Essentially a top 6 or a 3rd liner that will be one of the first to fill in for a top 6er. Him and TFK are guys that can and will score. We don't exactly have a surplus of players like that.

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    I'm hearing they want to keep Dupuis.....and my only question is why?????
    If it were a choice between Dupuis and kennedy I'd resign Dupuis. Dupuis kills a lot of penalties along with being able to play Top 6 minutes and a 3rd line type role. His age would be a concern but a player that can produce and kill penalties is worth more than a player that can only do 1 while providing similar offensive production
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