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    Default Wilson signs extension with Seattle

    Maybe this should go in the MLB forum?

    Wilson has signed a 2-year extension with Seattle.


    MLB Notebook: Mariners sign Wilson to 2-year, $10M deal
    Saturday, November 14, 2009
    From wire dispatches
    Shortstop Jack Wilson and the Seattle Mariners agreed yesterday to a $10 million, two-year contract.

    Wilson gets $5 million in each of the next two seasons and can earn $250,000 a year in performance bonuses: $50,000 for 450 plate appearances, and $100,000 each for 500 and 550 plate appearances.

    Wilson was acquired from the Pirates July 29 along with Ian Snell. Seattle had held an $8.4 million option with a $600,000 buyout under the contract Wilson agreed to with the Pirates before the 2006 season.

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    Default Re: Wilson signs extension with Seattle

    I'm glad these guys are getting contracts, and I'm glad they aren't coming back. Time to move on!

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    Maybe this should go in the MLB forum?

    Wilson has signed a 2-year extension with Seattle.


    MLB Notebook: Mariners sign Wilson to 2-year, $10M deal
    Saturday, November 14, 2009
    From wire dispatches
    Shortstop Jack Wilson and the Seattle Mariners agreed yesterday to a $10 million, two-year contract.

    Wilson gets $5 million in each of the next two seasons and can earn $250,000 a year in performance bonuses: $50,000 for 450 plate appearances, and $100,000 each for 500 and 550 plate appearances.

    Wilson was acquired from the Pirates July 29 along with Ian Snell. Seattle had held an $8.4 million option with a $600,000 buyout under the contract Wilson agreed to with the Pirates before the 2006 season.

    http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/09318/1013504-63.stm
    So as in the Freddy Sanchez situation the Pirates also low-balled Jack!

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    So as in the Freddy Sanchez situation the Pirates also low-balled Jack!
    Thank Goodness. $5 million per year for Jack is steep. That's a lot of dough for a guy that's missed an entire seasons worth of games (170+) over the past 3 seasons who struggled to hit for average

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    Did they really low ball them? I think in both cases, these guys got an awful lot of money for production that don't seem to match. Good for them. But I'm ready to move on.

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    Did they really low ball them? I think in both cases, these guys got an awful lot of money for production that don't seem to match. Good for them. But I'm ready to move on.
    About a million short per year for both. surprisingly both ended up getting exactly what they had asked the Pirates for if I'm not mistaken

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    I'm glad these guys are getting contracts, and I'm glad they aren't coming back. Time to move on!
    I agree.

    Great news for Jack. Its definitely time for the Bucs to move on as well. I think this is a big sigh of relief for NH and the Pirates front office. There would have been a lot of media speculation and probably a lot of fan unrest regarding the Bucs trying to sign him this off season.

    One less headache for NH/Coonelly who almost certainly weren't interested in signing Jack and yet would've had to continually confront the media and fans about possibly signing him.

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    "It's a good deal, a good situation," Wilson just said. "I think they're going to be aggressive here in putting together a good team, and I'm really happy to be part of that."

    Wilson was the Pirates' shortstop most of the past decade.

    The Pirates will remain open to looking for an upgrade at shortstop over Ronny Cedeno, this after offering closer Matt Capps to Milwaukee for the Brewers' J.J. Hardy. (Hardy went to the Minnesota Twins.) The Pirates had been interested in approaching Wilson this offseason as a free agent, but it is highly unlikely they would have topped their own final offer to him, that being two years and $8 million, made in July."

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    Just saying IF the Pirates REALLY wanted to keep both players they were a little lite on their offers.

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    Just saying IF the Pirates REALLY wanted to keep both players they were a little lite on their offers.
    But were they really that far off? Had both parties wanted to get something done at the time, they could have surely bridged the gap. The main problem were the options held on both were so much higher than what they realistically were worth, there was no getting past it. These deals worked out for all parties concerned.

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    I'm glad these guys are getting contracts, and I'm glad they aren't coming back. Time to move on!
    Couldn't agree more.Been there,done that with Jack.Next.

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    About a million short per year for both. surprisingly both ended up getting exactly what they had asked the Pirates for if I'm not mistaken
    Which proves their agents knew/understood market value better than the Pirates. Not really too surprising there. The Pirates really haven't been active in the "market" for a long time...

    The players weren't attempting to screw the organization...they got what they thought they were worth.

    However, they are gone...oh well...we'll move on and do what we can do to be productive without them. Spilt milk now.
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    Which proves their agents knew/understood market value better than the Pirates. Not really too surprising there. The Pirates really haven't been active in the "market" for a long time...

    The players weren't attempting to screw the organization...they got what they thought they were worth.

    However, they are gone...oh well...we'll move on and do what we can do to be productive without them. Spilt milk now.
    I don't necessarily think it's a case of not knowing the market as much as NH/FC assigning a value to each player that they felt was fair market value. I personally, think their initial offers were fair and I'm sure if both parties expressed a desire to get something done, there could have been wiggle room to do so.

    After all the fans whining and crying about these offers, turns out their offers weren't far off from what they ultimately got. A couple million either way is pretty close in this situation. What would've been stupid would've been to be stuck with the options.

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    I don't necessarily think it's a case of not knowing the market as much as NH/FC assigning a value to each player that they felt was fair market value. I personally, think their initial offers were fair and I'm sure if both parties expressed a desire to get something done, there could have been wiggle room to do so.

    [HIGH-LIGHT]After all the fans whining and crying about these offers, turns out their offers weren't far off from what they ultimately got.[/HIGH-LIGHT] A couple million either way is pretty close in this situation. What would've been stupid would've been to be stuck with the options.
    Except that the difference between what the organization offered and what the players wanted was also minimal...they could have bridged the gap if they wanted to...especially since the market proved the players correct.

    Anyways...its over and done...no need to really look back and question. The return was VERY good...so I'll be happy with that.
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    i dont think the prices they got had anything to do with market value, it had everything to do with what the teams gave up to get them and not wanting to lose even more in trying to get replacements. If anything they should have been asking for more. I would be willing to bet that they were afraid any higher offers would be rejected, and they would actually have been forced to accept less in order to get a job.

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