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    Default Preseason games?... Don't worry...

    Well, our 1st preseason game wasn't exactly stellar by any means. But while these "exhibition" games are more than just a practice session (we're talkin' 'bout "practice", man), I still don't think it's anything to necessarily worry about. I've never been too impressed with how the Steelers look in the preseason, but it all seems to work-out come September time when the games count...

    Here's an interesting take on how these glorified scrimmages are approached by some of the coaches in the league, and I think it's an interesting read...


    Some NFL coaches seek 'the same page' in preseason
    By JAIME ARON AP Pro Football Writer 2011 The Associated Press
    Aug. 11, 2011

    ARLINGTON, Texas — The tradition goes back generations, to the days when the NFL still referred to preseason games as "exhibitions."

    One coach calls the other and they decide things like how long to play their starters and how often they blitz. It's not fixing the game, it's trying to get the most out of their glorified scrimmage.

    Consider it the football equivalent of planning a potluck dinner; you've got to know who is bringing what to make sure you don't end up with six desserts but no salad or vegetables.

    Such arrangements don't always happen any more in the NFL, and aren't always acknowledged when they do.

    This preseason, however, some coaches believe they're needed more than ever.

    With the lockout having wiped away offseason work, the new labor deal limiting practice time in training camp and other delays keeping free agents from suiting up for practices until late last week, teams are nowhere near ready to get everything they need out of the games that begin Thursday night.

    So, says Cowboys coach Jason Garrett, it only makes sense to agree on the rules of engagement for a game that doesn't count in the standings.

    "I think everybody in the league will do something like that because everything has been so shortened," Garrett said. "You need to be on the same page as to who is playing against whom and what kind of stuff we're using. I think those conversations are important."

    Although this is Garrett's first preseason in charge, he's been around long enough to know the drill. Dolphins coach Tony Sparano mentioned having such conversations with Garrett last preseason, when Garrett was Dallas' offensive coordinator.

    This preseason, Sparano expects more of the same across the league. He said there could even be strategic trade-offs, such as encouraging a foe to try blocking a kick just to see if your special teams can prevent it, in exchange for testing one of their potential weaknesses.

    "As we get on in this thing here and start with these preseason games that would be something I would strongly consider just because you've lost practices," Sparano said. "You wouldn't under normal circumstances do that, but because you've lost practices there might be something that they need or you need."

    Garrett revived the subject of coaches cutting deals by saying last weekend that he planned to talk to Denver coach John Fox about "what the overall approach is" when their teams meet Thursday night at Cowboys Stadium.

    The league office probably wasn't thrilled to hear that. The reason is printed on every preseason ticket.

    Teams charge the same for preseason games as for regular season games, so they want to at least give the appearance that fans are getting their money's worth. This is especially true for season-ticket holders forced to pay for all 10 home games, even though only eight truly matter.

    Fans know the quality of these games is lousy, which is why hardly anyone buys individual tickets. Empty seats close to the field are proof some season-tickers holders can't even give them away.

    Owners acknowledged the frivolity of four preseason games by asking the players' association to turn two into regular-season games. That didn't make the new collective bargaining agreement, but it wasn't ruled out, either. Both sides only agreed to hold off for at least two years.

    If there were only two, they'd carry more weight. Star players would be in the game longer, and they'd probably try harder.

    With four preseason games, that's certainly not the case. Perhaps that's why old-guard coaches Bill Belichick of the Patriots and Mike Shanahan of the Redskins issued versions of the same league-approved stance when asked if they'll set anything up this preseason.

    "I've always been under the mindset that whatever the other team wants to do, we've got to be ready for," Shanahan said.

    Said Belichick: "We're just going to play the game, do what we need to do and I'm sure (the Jaguars, his upcoming foe) will do what they need to do. That's football. You've got to be able to react to whatever it is."

    The concerns for this weekend — teammates who don't know each other, new playbooks, lack of prep time — are similar to what everyone faces at the Pro Bowl.

    Since there's less pretense about that game being played at half-speed, the league mandated things such as defenses remaining in basic formations and not being allowed to blitz; offenses aren't allowed to go in motion or shift, and quarterbacks have an extra layer of protection from sacks by being allowed to throw a ball away.

    That might be a bit extreme for this weekend. But only a little.

    "Teams like Pittsburgh, New England, Indianapolis and Green Bay have their systems in place, their quarterbacks in place, a lot of veterans returning, so I don't think they will treat the preseason any different than they have been," said NFL Network analyst Steve Mariucci, the former coach of the 49ers and Lions.

    "But there are 20-something new coordinators teaching from square one. Even their returning starters are learning a new playbooks. They have to play their starters longer, even at the risk of players getting injured. Otherwise, you could have a product on opening weekend that's going to be insufficient. I don't think teams want to look sloppy and flat in September."

    Mariucci also warned that some of those new coordinators may not follow the usual preseason script, agreed upon or not.

    "I think you'll always find some of these young, aspiring defensive coordinators bringing the kitchen sink in preseason games to get their teams confident, to say `Yeah, this is what I want to do,'" he said. "Congratulations. You're going to get to the quarterback, but that's a false positive. You're fooling them, not beating them. What you need to be doing is the basics. You install your system from the foundation-up."

    Herm Edwards expects to see all sorts of zany things this weekend because preseason openers are always a circus.

    It starts with rookies and new coaches not knowing where to stand on the sideline and never stops, with a constant concern over having too many or too few players in the huddle.

    When he coached the Jets and Chiefs, Edwards took aspirin before kickoff to ward off the headache he knew was coming, something he didn't do during the regular season or even the playoffs. And that was with a full offseason, unlimited two-a-days and mapping out the structure of the game with his coaching counterpart.

    "The preseason is all about evaluating the young players," Edwards said. "You want them to play. You want to teach them. You've got to put them in position to learn. If I'm coaching, I'm calling whoever we're playing and making sure the coordinators talk. You don't want to embarrass anyone. It's about evaluating."

    Edwards can talk openly about those phone calls because he's now an ESPN analyst. He doesn't have to worry about being reprimanded by the league.

    "No, they don't like it, but what they don't know doesn't hurt them," he said, laughing. "You want to present a game that's respectable, that's competitive, even in the preseason. ... Most fans get it. They know it's the preseason and you're going to watch young players play."

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    Teams charge the same for preseason games as for regular season games, so they want to at least give the appearance that fans are getting their money's worth. This is especially true for season-ticket holders forced to pay for all 10 home games, even though only eight truly matter.
    Those tickets are worth maybe half of their face value price.

    You can't get lowered prices because they are automatically included in the price of a seaosn ticket package so you're ****ed into being forced to by these grossly overpriced tickets for garbage games.
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    Pre-season shme-season. They looked like ****. It was the 1st pre-season game for NE too. Only they put 47 pts on the board. I saw very little intensity from our team. Christ the D-backs looked like they were on a coffee break. I'm not asking for peek form like you need around game # 13, but come on, that was putrid to watch.

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    Pre-season shme-season. They looked like ****. It was the 1st pre-season game for NE too. Only they put 47 pts on the board. I saw very little intensity from our team. Christ the D-backs looked like they were on a coffee break. I'm not asking for peek form like you need around game # 13, but come on, that was putrid to watch.
    Steelers always look like **** in preseason... Rest easy, as the REAL regular season is always different...

    ... Christ... Take it for what it is....
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    Steelers always look like **** in preseason... Rest easy, as the REAL regular season is always different...

    ... Christ... Take it for what it is....
    I disagree but then again the Steelers often look like **** in the reg season too. They are the kings of pulling them out of their ***. They have even pulled SBs out. They do it in the clutch is the point. The Pats do it pretty but if I an not mistaken they have not won the whole thing in 7 years. **** em.

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