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    Jason Bay leaving Boston for San Francisco?
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    The San Francisco Giants want to add a player with a big bat this off-season and the word is that the Boston Red Sox's Jason Bay(notes) will be the prime target, according to the Boston Globe.
    The Giants, who've needed a big offensive threat ever since Barry Bonds(notes) receded into the fog, are apparently ready to open their wallet for a fella like Bay or Matt Holliday(notes), both of whom will be free agents soon enough.
    The Red Sox are apparently hoping to retain Bay, but he has his home in Seattle and rumor has it he'd like to return to the West Coast.
    Source: Boston Globe

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    Bay is about ready to hit his cripple and decline stage. The homers came at a short porch this year in boston, but the batting average sank for a good couple of months into the .250's, then the injuries piled on.

    nice guy, has no speed and range to play an OF position that has deeper gaps but at his age, with his injuries and the repeat injuries.... the Giants are gonna be overpaying for what Bay once was, not what he;s going to be.

    Pirates were smart to trade him, too bad they got dick in return
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    That's their history; to sign a guy that's has seen his best days just pass him or just past his prime by a few years(Recent examples:Zito, Edgar Renteria).

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    That's their history; to sign a guy that's has seen his best days just pass him or just past his prime by a few years(Recent examples:Zito, Edgar Renteria).
    Is David Littlefield in SF now???

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    Is David Littlefield in SF now???
    No, but you might think his..... but I think Brian Sabean is his long lost brother.lol

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    Let me get this straight.SF wants to add a "big bat" this offseason and they are looking at Jason Bay??



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    That's their history; to sign a guy that's has seen his best days just pass him or just past his prime by a few years(Recent examples:Zito, Edgar Renteria).
    I was going to mention Zito. He at least bounced back to average this past year...sort of. Still is worth nowhere the amount he got. Now the Giants are poised to pay a guy that was likely worth the type of money when he was in his prime but in his 30's with injuries? they aren't ever going to get the value in retiurn for what they wil be paying out.

    At least Bay knows that if old Bonds who was crazy slow could man left field at the bell then he can
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    I was going to mention Zito. He at least bounced back to average this past year...sort of. Still is worth nowhere the amount he got. Now the Giants are poised to pay a guy that was likely worth the type of money when he was in his prime but in his 30's with injuries? they aren't ever going to get the value in retiurn for what they wil be paying out.

    At least Bay knows that if old Bonds who was crazy slow could man left field at the bell then he can

    You know, I don't necessarily blame the FO and Sabean for trying to do something. Sabean has done things out of desperation(Zito was basically signed because the fans were *****ing about signing an off season big name and at the time they were pursuing bats and one by one they were signing with other teams due to ballpark effects. Zito was basically all that was left.....Fans, careful what you wish for is right.).

    Further proof of their desperation in the recent years are Rowand, Renteria, Zito and to a lesser extent, Randy Johnson(Randy not so much. he did a good job when healthy. loll). Sf's claim to fame and recent philosophy is producing stud pitchers and then trading certain blue chip prospects for bats while in the mean time not really producing field position prospects/bats.
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    I think Bay's best bet is to stay in Boston and continue to excel with that short porch...otherwise his career might end sooner rather than later.
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    Default Re: Rumor Mill:Jason Bay leaving Boston for San Francisco?

    Bay actually hit more HR and for a higher slugging percentage on the road this year (better average and OBP at home, though). I don't know that playing in Boston necessarily made a huge difference for him. Bay led all American League outfielders in OPS this year (unless you count Ben Zobrist as an outfielder - where did that come from?).

    An interesting take on Bay comes from USS Mariner where they compare him to Richie Sexson when he signed with the Mariners, hit well for 2 years, then fell off a cliff.
    http://ussmariner.com/2009/10/08/sor...dont-want-you/

    Bay's biggest issue has to be defense. He nullifies a lot of his offensive production in the field. He put up a -14 UZR this year playing half of his games in front of the monster in Fenway. Matt Holliday is a couple years younger, a much better fielder, and probably a better hitter as well if he's not in a stadium like Oakland's. Bay will get a big deal as someone's Plan B and they'll probably be happy with it for a year or two, then regret the extra years they put on.

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