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    Default Re: Pirates DFA Karstens and Diaz

    There has been interest in Diaz via trade. Aftyer you are DFA'd, don't you have 10 days to be traded, etc.....or is that just regular waivers?

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    There has been interest in Diaz via trade. Aftyer you are DFA'd, don't you have [HIGH-LIGHT]10 days to be traded, etc[/HIGH-LIGHT] .....or is that just regular waivers?

    That's right....waive, trade or release

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    UPDATE 7:12 p.m.: By designating them, the Pirates have 10 days to waive, trade or release Diaz and Thomas. Karstens, who is arbitration eligible, already has been placed on waivers.

    Waiving Karstens allowed the Pirates to claim right-handed pitcher Chris Jakubauskas off waivers from Seattle. Jakubauskas, 30, was 6-7 with a 5.32 ERA in 35 games last season, eight of them starts. He and the four minor-leaguers brought the Pirates to a full, 40-man contingent, meaning they would have to create space to add a minor-leaguer in the Rule 5 draft or a free-agent signee.
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    Default Re: Pirates DFA Karstens and Diaz

    I'm kind of surprised about Karstens but in a way I guess it's a good thing. Huntington won't wait long letting go of "his" guys. I was curious how he'd approach that

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    Thomas isn't a surprise at all. I assumed this was the plan from the start, they're just hoping no one picks him up.

    Karstens is somewhat surprising. I guess they didn't want to bother going to arbitration with him when you can find a reliever with a 5 ERA for the minimum any time.

    Diaz is a big surprise to me with all the other options there were, but I have to assume they're trying to work something out. No idea why they wouldn't just dump Clagett, Bixler, Cruz, Dumatrait, etc. Someone else will probably be dropped before the Rule 5 happens, then someone else if any FAs are signed.

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    Thomas isn't a surprise at all. I assumed this was the plan from the start, they're just hoping no one picks him up.

    Karstens is somewhat surprising. I guess they didn't want to bother going to arbitration with him when you can find a reliever with a 5 ERA for the minimum any time.

    Diaz is a big surprise to me with all the other options there were, but I have to assume they're trying to work something out. No idea why they wouldn't just dump Clagett, Bixler, Cruz, Dumatrait, etc. Someone else will probably be dropped before the Rule 5 happens, then someone else if any FAs are signed.
    I can see them possibly hanging on to dumatrait. Clagett, Bixler and Cruz Missile.... yeah, not sure why those are still here

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    i am really hoping there is some sort of trade in the works with diaz. Good kid good catcher.

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    i am really hoping there is some sort of trade in the works with diaz. Good kid good catcher.
    Me too. It would be a shame to let him go without getting something in return. I mean his value isn't really great but he could fetch something useful

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    Me too. It would be a shame to let him go without getting something in return. I mean his value isn't really great but he could fetch something useful
    I doubt they get anything useful for a player they just released.

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    Huntington said that the reason for releasing Karstens and picking up Jakubauskas was that they thought they could both fill the same role (swing man/emergency starter), but Karstens was out of options while Jakubauskas wasn't. If they have another bullpen option they like the ability to send Jakubauskas back to Indy. If Karstens clears waivers they will see if they can work out a trade for him.

    Said releasing Thomas was a gamble they wanted to take, they still like what he brings to the table and are hoping they can keep him as a non-roster guy.

    Diaz wasn't happy about being third on the depth chart, and is going to be either a release or trade guy. He qualifies for minor league free agency and wants to go somewhere where he thinks there's a better opportunity.

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    [HIGH-LIGHT]Huntington said that the reason for releasing Karstens and picking up Jakubauskas was that they thought they could both fill the same role (swing man/emergency starter), but Karstens was out of options while Jakubauskas wasn't. If they have another bullpen option they like the ability to send Jakubauskas back to Indy.[/HIGH-LIGHT] If Karstens clears waivers they will see if they can work out a trade for him.

    Said releasing Thomas was a gamble they wanted to take, they still like what he brings to the table and are hoping they can keep him as a non-roster guy.

    Diaz wasn't happy about being third on the depth chart, and is going to be either a release or trade guy. He qualifies for minor league free agency and wants to go somewhere where he thinks there's a better opportunity.
    Translation....The Pirates didn't want to go to arbitration with Karstens.

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    Thomas isn't a surprise at all. I assumed this was the plan from the start, they're just hoping no one picks him up.

    Karstens is somewhat surprising. I guess they didn't want to bother going to arbitration with him when you can find a reliever with a 5 ERA for the minimum any time.

    Diaz is a big surprise to me with all the other options there were, but I have to assume they're trying to work something out. No idea why they wouldn't just dump Clagett, Bixler, Cruz, Dumatrait, etc. Someone else will probably be dropped before the Rule 5 happens, then someone else if any FAs are signed.


    I would trade BIxler for a bag of soggy baseballs, just don't think he's MLB material , your classic AAAA guy. Just a thought on Dumatrait... with the Bucs having no lefties in the pen , maybe Phil will fit there?
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    I would trade BIxler for a bag of soggy baseballs, just don't think he's MLB material , your classic AAAA guy. Just a thought on Dumatrait... with the Bucs having no lefties in the pen , maybe Phil will fit there?


    You mean Phil (I make Ryan Doumit look like an iron man) Dumatrait? I have absolutely no concerns about him pitching an entire year injury free.

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    From Perrotto's Twitter...

    RT @SI_JonHeyman: baseball's greatest insult. DFA'ed by #pirates.


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