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    Jackson is most certainly available and he carries 2 or 3 controllable years. Obviously the Tigers would want young players. My question is do we have enough young to part with for Jackson? He is precisely the type of player we need. A young pitcher (Lincoln or Morris) and two other pieces maybe? They originally signed Gorkys Hernandez. Just throwing this out there to see what everybody else thinks.

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    I don't know the needs of the Pirates very well; I would assume he would fit but he really does choke in high pressure situations. Jackson isn't a pitcher by nature and working with Verlander and Porcello really got to him.

    A good guy, but he really cost the Tigers.
    Not like we don't have a million other problems though...

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    Default Re: How about Edwin Jackson?

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    I don't know the needs of the Pirates very well; I would assume he would fit but he really does choke in high pressure situations. Jackson isn't a pitcher by nature and working with Verlander and Porcello really got to him.

    A good guy, but he really cost the Tigers.
    Not like we don't have a million other problems though...
    If he chokes in high pressure situations, then Pittsburgh is the perfect spot for him! We NEVER play high pressure games !

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    If he chokes in high pressure situations, then Pittsburgh is the perfect spot for him! We NEVER play high pressure games !


    that was my thinking as well

    I'd most definitely take a chance on Jackson. He's the type Benny should be looking at. 26 years old, arm hasn't fallen off and has improved each of the past 2 seasons. That's someone you take chances on and look for out there on the market.

    He made $2.2 million last year so he'd definitely be up for a nice raise but is a guy that should get better, is ready to hit his prime and wouldn't cost you the farm

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    If he chokes in high pressure situations, then Pittsburgh is the perfect spot for him! We NEVER play high pressure games !
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    Just putting in my 2 cents as a Tiger faithful. I got to see Jackson play a couple times this season and he's TERRIBLE with first pitch strikes. I'd say he throws a ball 95% of his first pitches.

    But then again, maybe I'm naive in thinking Pirates fans would care.

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    Default Re: How about Edwin Jackson?

    First pitch strike percentage is a weird number to look at. The league leader this year was Carl Pavano at 67.7% and it didn't do him too much good. The next 10 included guys like Roy Halladay, Dan Haren, Javier Vasquez, Josh Johnson, Josh Beckett, and Johan Santana, though.

    The worst qualified starter in the league was Yovanni Gallardo at 52.6%. Jackson was 5th from the bottom at 54.5%. The bottom 10 included some pretty good starters like Gallardo, Jackson, John Lester, Clayton Kershaw, and Ubaldo Jimenez. Tim Lincecum was 15th worst in the majors, and CC Sabathia and Felix Hernandez weren't particularly good either.

    I don't know that that particular number really tells you nearly as much as some people like to think.

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    Default Re: How about Edwin Jackson?

    Throwing first pitch strikes can help pitchers with lesser stuff be more successful, but long term those things tend to balance out.

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    Default Re: How about Edwin Jackson?

    Don't get me wrong, I like him. He's not a bad pitcher by any means; especially given the fact he isn't a pitcher by nature. Just pointing out what he struggles with. I'm sure with time he'll even that out, too.

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    Default Re: How about Edwin Jackson?

    He's still relatively young and he was highly touted when he came up with the Dodgers. I'm not sure what it would take, but it would be worth exploring.

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    Don't get me wrong, I like him. He's not a bad pitcher by any means; especially given the fact he isn't a pitcher by nature. Just pointing out what he struggles with. I'm sure with time he'll even that out, too.
    Yeah, he's likely a guy with some flaws not being an Ace or probably even a #2. He has #3 type stuff from what I've observed, maybe #2 on the Pirates staff He gets outs, doesn't allow baserunners on. Gives up a lot of Home runs, is a fly ball pitcher, not a high K guy with decent control.

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    I am sure Kerrigan could get him squared away. He would be a good edition to the buccos and I don't think it would cost a whole lot to get him.
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    Default Re: How about Edwin Jackson?

    If it were me, I'd be interested in Granderson and Jackson as long as Dontrelle Willis isn't attached to that package. I doubt the front office would want to come off of that many prospects or young talent, but man would Granderson look good in left with McCutchen in center and Milledge in right until Tabata is ready. I'm not sure what Granderson's contract looks like, but that's what the offseason is about, dream about things that will never happen. Wouldn't Lackey look good in there with Jackson, Duke, Maholm, and Ohlendorf?

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    Yes he would Indy, yes he would.
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