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    Mir "extremely interested" in fight with "The Spider," open to rematch with Nogueira
    John Morgan, MMAjunkie.com
    Oct 12, 5:54 pm EDT
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    SAN ANTONIO Frank Mir (12-4 MMA, 10-4 UFC) may be currently planning to fight Cheick Kongo at UFC 107 in December, but the French striker isn't the only opponent on the former UFC champ's mind.

    In fact, lessons learned in his UFC 100 loss to Brock Lesnar have led Mir to express his desire to face middleweight champ Anderson Silva in a previously rumored heavyweight superfight.

    "I'm extremely interested in the fight," Mir said at Friday's post-WEC 43 weigh-in Q&A session. "I've learned that size helps people win fights. It would be nice to be on the other end of that."

    Mir didn't discount the danger that Silva presents to any opponent, but he did consider himself a pretty clear-cut favorite should the bout materialize.

    "With Anderson, obviously he's a great striker and he is pound-for-pound one of the best fighters in the world," Mir said. "But with my grappling, it would be a very bad night for him.

    "I think there's a reason why he should just do a few exhibitions at light heavyweight and stay a middleweight."

    While UFC president Dana White has openly he stated he doesn't want to see Silva move all the way up to heavyweight, Mir could potentially face another Brazilian opponent.

    Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira's UFC 102 win over Randy Couture has led many MMA observers to call for a rematch of his December 2008 bout with Mir.

    Mir doesn't feel like he needs to prove himself again, but he won't shy away from the bout if the UFC puts it on the table.

    "I think Nogueira wants me more than I want him," Mir said. "I don't really feel like I need to fight him. But obviously, if that fight needs to be answered again, I'm more than happy to show Nogueira that he's the same fighter that Randy fought.

    "Everybody said, 'Oh, Nogueira is so much sharper now that he fought Randy.' I saw a 46-year-old man punch you in the face as many times as I punched you in the face. The only difference is he didn't knock you down."

    Mir said that had he been able to deliver some of the blows that Couture landed in the UFC 102 bout with Nogueira, the Brazilian's night would have ended early.

    "That's Randy Couture; he's knocked down one guy his whole career," Mir said. "He's not known as a power puncher.

    "[Couture] is a great wrestler. He's a phenomenally tough guy that will just grind you to death. But if he's out-boxing you and hitting you in the face and you're not falling down, well what's going to happen when I weigh 245-250 (pounds) and I hit you with those? I saw it last December. You're going to fall down."

    Before Mir can look at either of those options, he must get by Kongo. And while many have praised Mir's improved striking in recent contests, the heavyweight says he probably won't test it out against the former kickboxer.

    "Honestly, I want to go out there and get a win," Mir said. "His ground game is definitely his weakest compared to his standup game. So regardless how I feel about my standup or my ground, I want to fight my opponents at their weakness."

    And with all of these opponents in Mir's mind, is a rubber match with Lesnar on the horizon?

    "Obviously if I go out there and improve on the things I need to improve on, I'll get an opportunity to be locked in a cage with [Lesnar] again," Mir said.

    John Morgan is the lead staff reporter for MMAjunkie.com.

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    I personally don't think Mir stands a chance against Anderson. Anderson Silva is a monster with robotic knees. Good luck even getting Anderson to grapple with you Mir. I only like Mir when he fights Brock in the hopes that maybe one day Mir will win cause I can't stand Brock. Didn't even deserve a title shot. All other fighters have to work there way up but not Brock. Just because he was already famous got him a title shot that he didn't deserve at all. now the UFC is stuck. Brock gonna be champ forever? Who's gonna be able to beat him? Kimbo?

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    Hmm, I didn't catch your post until now, Shannon.

    My opinion, Silva should not fight Mir. Mir is 260lbs; under no circumstances should Silva fight Mir. Unless the money is soooo great. Mir is too big for Anderson. In order for Silva to fight Mir, he would have to gain at least, oh, say, 45 lbs. Anderson is 185 at fighting weight, probably 205 walking around weight so from his walking around weight he would have to add 20-30 more lbs imo. That's too much weight to gain to fight Mir. Gaining that much weight would negatively hinder Silva. His performance would suffer. Not a good idea at all.

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    Anderson has said that he walks around at 220. So if that's true he cuts more weight for MW than he would have to gain for HW. He's also 6'2 with a 77.5 inch reach. At fight time Mir is around 240. I keep finding different heights for Mir between 6'2 and 6'4 and a reach of 79 so there's really not that much difference between them
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    Anderson has said that he walks around at 220. So if that's true he cuts more weight for MW than he would have to gain for HW. He's also 6'2 with a 77.5 inch reach. At fight time Mir is around 240. I keep finding different heights for Mir between 6'2 and 6'4 and a reach of 79 so there's really not that much difference between them
    Well that's the reason Silva cuts down to 185 because that gives him a huge advantage over anybody at 185. Most 185 guys are not as big and tall as Silva. That's why he dominates at 185.

    I still don't think it's a good move for Silva to go hw..If they fought, Mir wouldn't have to cut anything . A clear advantage for Mir and Mir knows it. That's why he talks about fighting Silva at HW because he knows it is to his advantage. Mir in a HW fight against Silva would take him down and that's where he is better than Silva. Mir would sub Silva on the ground. I have no doubts. There is no good reason to fight at Hw for silva.

    Mir talks it up about fighting Silva at hw but ask him if he'd cut to a 190-205 catch weight to fight Anderson. I bet you he would not because he loses his advantage if he does.

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    My bad. I thought I said in another post that I thought it should be at a catch weight. I don't think it would be a good idea for Anderson to move up that much. And since Mir's such a ***** there's no chance he would fight at a catch weight because then there would be the very big chance that he would lose.
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    My bad. I thought I said in another post that I thought it should be at a catch weight. I don't think it would be a good idea for Anderson to move up that much. And since Mir's such a ***** there's no chance he would fight at a catch weight because then there would be the very big chance that he would lose.
    Mir is a *****. I hate that guy. so arrogant. I hate him so much that I was pulling for Lesnar in their rematch..and I really can't stand Lesnar either. For the same reasons I hate Mir.

    Silva is good to go at either 185 or 205. the Hw is not a good fit for him. It would wreck his speed and conditioning, timing and reflexes, messing around at hw. imo
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