Black Monday

**buccoray61** · Dec-31-2012, 11:52 AM

The axe has fell on 5 coaches so far, Andy Reid, Crennell,Gailey,Shurmur,and Lovie Smith. Norv Turner expected to be fired later today. Whiz has meeting with owner later today.

**buccoray61** · Dec-31-2012, 12:03 PM

I know the Browns have a new owner and he wanted to bring in his own people,but Shurmur didn't get a fair chance.
Since 1999 when they came back into the league they've had Chris Palmer,Butch Davis,Eric Mangini,Shurmur and Terry Robicki(sp) no wonder they suck!

**Pittsburgh** · Dec-31-2012, 12:25 PM

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Since 1999 when they came back into the league they've had Chris Palmer,Butch Davis,Eric Mangini,Shurmur and Terry Robicki(sp) no wonder they suck!

And Romeo Crennel.

**buccoray61** · Dec-31-2012, 12:30 PM

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And Romeo Crennel.

I don't know how I missed him!

**vandelay industries** · Dec-31-2012, 12:35 PM

If Haley goes to the Cards, I'd love to see us make a play for Andy Reid as O-Coord.

His offense was never really the problem, his D, after Jim Johnson died, really let the team down. Take away that responsibility for him, let him focus on Offense, and I think that's a home run for us.

**buccoray61** · Dec-31-2012, 12:39 PM

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If Haley goes to the Cards, I'd love to see us make a play for Andy Reid as O-Coord.

His offense was never really the problem, his D, after Jim Johnson died, really let the team down. Take away that responsibility for him, let him focus on Offense, and I think that's a home run for us.

He still wants to be a Head Coach,and I'm sure he'll get some offers.

**Pittsburgh** · Dec-31-2012, 12:40 PM

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I don't know how I missed him!

It's completely understandable - that organization changes coaches like Lincoln changed army commanders.

**ManO'Steel** · Dec-31-2012, 12:40 PM

I'm surprised Lovie stayed this long.

**buccoray61** · Dec-31-2012, 12:47 PM

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It's completely understandable - that organization changes coaches like Lincoln changed army commanders.

I 've heard Josh McDaniels name being mention for the Cleveland job. IMO they couldn't make a worse choice than him if they tried.

**ManO'Steel** · Dec-31-2012, 12:50 PM

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I 've heard Josh McDaniels name being mention for the Cleveland job. IMO they couldn't make a worse choice than him if they tried.

I've also heard of rumors of Nick Saban going to Cleveland and Chip Kelly going to Philadelphia.

**buccoray61** · Dec-31-2012, 12:53 PM

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I think Nick Saban will be going to Cleveland and Chip Kelley will be going to Philadelphia.

I could see Kelly going to the Eagles.To me Saban is a guy who is a much better college coach than a pro,but you never know.

**Pittsburgh** · Dec-31-2012, 12:56 PM

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To me Saban is a guy who is a much better college coach than a pro,but you never know.

I second that and I think it was proven in Miami - would his situation be any different in Cleveland?

If hired, maybe he comes in and helps turn that organization around, but if I were Haslam I wouldn't make that hire because of Saban's history at the professional level and the manner in which he parted with the Dolphins.

But, that's just me.

**buccoray61** · Dec-31-2012, 01:06 PM

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I second that and I think it was proven in Miami - would his situation be any different in Cleveland?

If hired, maybe he comes in and helps turn that organization around, but if I were Haslam I wouldn't make that hire because of Saban's history at the professional level and the manner in which he parted with the Dolphins.

But, that's just me.

Plus he's got a pretty sweet gig at Bama. He's very well paid,and he's almost god like to the fans.

**Pittsburgh** · Dec-31-2012, 01:17 PM

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Plus he's got a pretty sweet gig at Bama. He's very well paid,and he's almost god like to the fans.

He's making over $5.5 million a year - I sure as hell wouldn't leave.

**ManO'Steel** · Dec-31-2012, 01:23 PM

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I could see Kelly going to the Eagles.To me Saban is a guy who is a much better college coach than a pro,but you never know.

I would say this too, but honestly his best choice at this point is the NFL. I think he's accomplished all he possibly could've (and then some) with Alabama, so I think now he may want to see if he can get another shot in the big league and go far with it, like he did it Tuscolusa. And I'm pretty sure he once coached with Cleveland (the original one) back in the mid-90's.