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    Default Pittsburgh #Pirates Are Getting A New Logo In 2014!! R.I.P. McClatchy Era Jolly Roger Logo



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    While I was down at Pirates Fest, I had the chance to talk with Pittsburgh Pirates President, Frank Coonelly briefly. One of the first things I asked him was :

    "I've noticed over the past few years, that there's a been a shift away from the jolly roger logo of the McClatchy era to using the Scripted P logo. Are you guys planning on phasing out the McClatchy logo all together"?

    Frank Responded and knew exactly what I was getting at :

    "Yes, there's going to be a new jolly Roger logo in 2014. It takes 14 months for the submission process to go through and we are on track for a new jolly roger logo for 2014".

    I nearly smiled the whole rest of the time I was at Pirates Fest after hearing this. I hate the McClatchy era logo. Nothing good has come with it. It's never seen a winning season and it's attached to an Owner in Kevin McClatchy that oversaw and approved of this organizations plummet to near rubble that the current Ownership/Management team has been trying to climb out of. Put simply, it's a "loser" logo. I want to see the Pirates be winners again, so anything that can help erase the identity of "losing", I am all for it!

    I have for years refused to buy any Pirates merchandise that has the McClatchy era logo on it. I've wanted a newer Pirates jersey for years, but won't buy one as long as the McClatchy era logo is on there and they keep slapping it on the sleeve. Tervis cup? Has the "P" Script logo on it. Pennants? "P" Script logo. I have about 7-8 Pittsburgh Pirates T-Shirts and none of them have the McClatchy era logo on it. There's at least one person that is ecstatic about this. Besides, being a Graphic Artist, It will be fun to see what the next logo looks like. It can be ugly for all I care and it'll be an improvement over the McClatchy era logo.

    Frank Coonelly didn't stop with those comments either. The guy seemed to know where I was coming from without me needing to say it :

    "I know that there's been a lot of talk about the Logo being cursed and it being tied to losing baseball"

    You're **** right, Frank!

    We still have a full season of Baseball to go through before a new logo change is made but I will be curious to see how much less we see of the McClatchy Logo this year. It makes little sense to promote it too much and overuse it on Merchandise. I understand that some of the merchandise design is beyond their control but seeing how they have slowly phased it out over the years, I wouldn't be surprised to see much of the existing use of the logo be on things where the logo has existed for years.

    So, now we can start the speculation.

    1. Will the Pirates stick with Black and Yellow or move to a "Mustard" Yellow. Was the use of the 1970-71 uniforms a "preview" of things to come, color wise?

    2. Will the Pirates go the route of the Baltimore Orioles, Toronto Blue Jays, & Houston Astros who have over the past 2 seasons, brought back old logos from the late 1960's and 1970's? Could we see the return of the beloved Pirates logo from 1968-1986 or a modernize version of it?

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    3. Will the Pittsburgh Pirates go completely brand new and try and rebuild the brand around something completely new and original?

    There's a lot of things to speculate on. Hopefully, since this Ownership Group and President apparently don't have the same strong love for the color "red", we won't see any Pittsburgh Pirates logo abused with that color (and hopefully never see another Pirates uniform abused by that color).

    So there you have it! Hopefully I don't get an angry E-Mail from the Pittsburgh Pirates about leaking this information and that their angry E-Mail's hopefully only rightfully get directed towards Dejan Kovacevic
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    Amen to everything above.

    Kip, you want to take a stab at it and come up with some possible designs?

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    Nice "scoop" work Kip.

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    Default Re: Pittsburgh #Pirates Are Getting A New Logo In 2014!! R.I.P. McClatchy Era Jolly Roger Logo

    Personally, I'd like to see a revival of the classic 70's logo. Probably not going to happen, but some variation would be awesome. If Houston can bring back a variation of their rainbow design...

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    Personally, I'd like to see a revival of the classic 70's logo. Probably not going to happen, but some variation would be awesome. If Houston can bring back a variation of their rainbow design...
    Me too. I saw this logo floating around about 4-5 years ago that fits the description with some tweaks to the coloring...

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    Here... I got rid of the ugly red and made the black darker..

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    I threw this together for fun. I kind of like it..

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    ^^^^^^ how ya like this one? ^^^^^^

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    Amen to everything above.

    Kip, you want to take a stab at it and come up with some possible designs?
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    Nice "scoop" work Kip.
    Thanks!

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    I threw this together for fun. I kind of like it..

    When you do this one I like it. But I like simple logo's the best. Clean look to them, like this one

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    I threw this together for fun. I kind of like it..

    I likey a lot!!

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    When you do this one I like it. But I like simple logo's the best. Clean look to them, like this one
    A lot of teams have 2 logos. a main and alternate. The one with the "P" script which I really like as well, is the current alternate and possibly too bland to be a "main" logo but they should keep using it. It's a very nice, clean and professional logo. the "jolly roger" logo is more for marketing etc...
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    A lot of teams have 2 logos. a main and alternate. The one with the "P" script which I really like as well, is the current alternate and possibly too bland to be a "main" logo but they should keep using it. It's a very nice, clean and professional logo. the "jolly roger" logo is more for marketing etc...
    I never had a problem with the Jolly Roger logo, but I never knew the history, never knew that it never had a winning season. I don't mind the look, but it symbolizes a losing team in Pittsburgh, and we are turning over a new leaf.

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    I never had a problem with the Jolly Roger logo, but I never knew the history, never knew that it never had a winning season. I don't mind the look, but it symbolizes a losing team in Pittsburgh, and we are turning over a new leaf.
    He changed the logo a year after he bought the team for the 1997 season. It was his way of taking his first **** on the franchise. The prior logo had only been used for 9 years, but it at least saw 3 Division winning, playoff teams in that short span.

    When I look at the McClatchy logo, outside of seeing nothing but losing, I see his attempt at incorporating red into the uniform and logo and I see what felt like a mass market attempt at kids. That part of it was mainly due to the logo coming out and my Brothers being so young, that the attachment to the logo seems to be really young.

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    He changed the logo a year after he bought the team for the 1997 season. It was his way of taking his first **** on the franchise. The prior logo had only been used for 9 years, but it at least saw 3 Division winning, playoff teams in that short span.

    When I look at the McClatchy logo, outside of seeing nothing but losing, I see his attempt at incorporating red into the uniform and logo and I see what felt like a mass market attempt at kids. That part of it was mainly due to the logo coming out and my Brothers being so young, that the attachment to the logo seems to be really young.

    I'm ready to move on
    I was OK with having the red bandanna, but all the red was WAY too much. The Red jersey's were hideous, but I didn't have suffer to much with that because the 2011 season was the first season I became an informed die-hard Pirates fan.

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