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    MA Fleury Named Number 2 Star For the Week Ending Dec. 20
    December 21, 2009, 12:50 PM ET [8 Comments]

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    Marc Andre Fleury has been playing well all season long, but he has gotten particularly hot as of late. His play is sure to have opened the eyes of those who are choosing team Canada for the upcoming Olympic games, which is great news considering Marc was already close to a lock to be on the roster. Could he be in line for more than back-up duty?

    That is yet to be determined, however he did collect an individual achievement by being named the number two star for the week ending December 20, 2009.

    Fleury started and won three games in the week and posted some impressive numbers in the process. Here is a look at his achievements over the last week.


    Fleury won all three starts, posting a 1.26 goals-against average and .957 save percentage, as the Penguins (25-10-1) completed the week tied in points with the New Jersey Devils atop the NHL overall standings. Fleury recorded 26 saves in a 6-1 victory over the Philadelphia Flyers Dec. 15 and turned aside 31 of 33 shots and both shootout attempts in a 3-2 win over the Flyers Dec. 17, completing the Penguins' first home-and-home sweep over their cross-state rivals in 17 years. He completed the week by stopping 31 shots and all three shootout attempts in a 2-1 victory over the Buffalo Sabres Dec. 19. Fleury has posted a 21-8-1 record with a 2.31 goals-against average and .911 save percentage in 30 appearances this season and is 4-0 in shootouts, stopping 12 of 13 attempts.


    Fleury was joined in the three stars selection by number one star Cristobal Huet, and number three star Patric Hornqvist.

    Huet stopped all 47 shots he faced in a pair of shutout victories, helping the Blackhawks (23-8-3) climb to first place in the Western Conference. While Hornqvist led all NHL scorers in the week with seven points (4G-3A).

    Marc Andre Fleury and the Penguins get back on the ice this evening against the New Jersey Devils.

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    Great goalie. Arguably our MVP this year. But Brodeur sure outplayed him last night, huh? Ended all speculation on who should start in the Olymics. Not to worry. Fleury's time will come soon enough.

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    Great goalie. Arguably our MVP this year. But Brodeur sure outplayed him last night, huh? Ended all speculation on who should start in the Olymics. Not to worry. Fleury's time will come soon enough.
    I seriously doubt there was any speculation amongst the selector(s).

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    You don't think? Stanley Cup winning goalie last year. And his stats this year. If there wasn't, maybe there should have been.

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    Is Brodeur better than Roy at this point?

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    your choice

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    Future Hall of Famer Martin Brodeur now holds the NHL records for most wins and most shutouts, so it would seem he can officially be ordained the greatest goalie of all-time. Or can he?

    While the Devils' keeper holds two of the most celebrated marks among goaltenders, his peer group is an impressive one.

    Is the 37-year-old Brodeur better than Patrick Roy, who has more Stanley Cups? Or Dominik Hasek, who won the Hart Trophy as Most Valuable Player twice? Or Ken Dryden, who won the Vezina Trophy five times in a relatively short career? He may very well be, but it's an interesting debate to explore: is Brodeur's claim to the throne as clear-cut as it may appear?

    It was last March that Brodeur, a native of Montreal, tied Roy's mark of 551 career wins. Brodeur now has 580 victories.

    There are, of course, other factors to be considered when narrowing down the greatest goalie of the post-expansion era (1967-present). Wins and shutouts are hugely important, but other achievements like Stanley Cup wins, Vezinas and Conn Smythes also play a role in the decision, as well as a host of other intangibles.

    It's worth taking a look at how Brodeur stacks up against the best of the post-expansion era.

    Martin Brodeur (1991-Present)
    4 Jennings
    4 Vezinas
    3 Stanley Cups
    580 wins - 1st

    In 15 NHL seasons, he has won three Stanley Cup championships and has taken them to the playoffs every year but one. Brodeur is the NHL's all-time leader in regular season wins and is alone in first for all-time in regular season shutouts.

    Patrick Roy (1985-2003)
    5 Jennings
    3 Conn Smythes
    3 Vezinas
    4 Stanley Cups
    551 wins - 2nd

    Roy split his NHL career between the Montreal Canadiens and Colorado Avalanche, winning two Stanley Cup championships with each franchise and a combined three Conn Smythe Trophies.

    Ed Belfour (1988-2007)
    4 Jennings
    2 Vezinas
    1 Stanley Cup
    484 wins - 3rd

    Belfour had a standout rookie season with 43 wins (a league record for NHL rookies), a 2.47 GAA and four shutouts. He won the Calder Memorial Trophy, the Vezina Trophy and the Jennings Trophy and was also nominated for the Hart Memorial Trophy. He won the Vezina Trophy again in 1993 and the Jennings Trophy in 1993, 1995 and 1999.

    Dominik Hasek (1981-2008)
    5 Jennings
    3 Vezinas
    2 Harts
    1 Stanley Cup
    389 wins - 11th

    From 1993 to 2001, Hasek won six Vezina Trophies, and in 1998 became the first goaltender to win consecutive Hart Trophies.

    Billy Smith (1972-89)
    1 Jennings
    1 Conn Smythes
    1 Vezinas
    4 Stanley Cups

    Smith helped the Islanders win four straight Stanley Cups (1980–83), reach the final five straight times (1980–84) and win a record 19 consecutive playoff series from 1980–84.

    Tony Esposito (1969-84)
    3 Vezinas
    423 wins - 7th

    Esposito had a standout season with Chicago in 1970, posting a 2.17 goals-against average with fifteen shutouts and won the Calder Trophy as the league's best rookie. He also took the Vezina Trophy and was named to the First All-Star team.

    Bernie Parent (1967-79)
    2 Conn Smythes
    2 Vezinas
    2 Stanley Cups

    Parent backstopped the Flyers to two Stanley Cups and won the Vezina Trophy and Conn Smythe Trophy both seasons.

    Ken Dryden (1971-79)
    5 Vezinas
    1 Conn Smythe
    6 Stanley Cups

    Dryden accomplished more in eight years than most goaltenders do in twice the time. He had a .790 career winning percentage, a 2.24 goals against average, and lost only 57 games while recording 46 shutouts in 397 total games. He won the Vezina Trophy five times and in the same years was selected as a First Team All-Star.

    Grant Fuhr (1981-2000)
    1 Jennings
    1 Vezina
    5 Stanley Cups
    403 wins - 9th

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    By the way Mike Babcock was saying as the 3 goalie for Canada have been selectiones
    a couple week ago...

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    Is Brodeur better than Roy at this point?
    Yes.

    Granted Brodeur has been protected for most of his career by a defense first, trapping, clutch and grab teams for a decade plus to pad a lot of numbers, he's still managed to not be weak minded when he hasn't had to do as much

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    You don't think? Stanley Cup winning goalie last year. And his stats this year. If there wasn't, maybe there should have been.
    MAF's stats this year don't compare to Brodeur's. MAF is having a solid year and at times has had to play behind a defense that was made up of mostly WBS guys or in the case of last night a team that was uninspired... but Brodeur has the most wins of any goalie this year, his GAA is 4th best in the league and 30 points better than MAF's and his save percentage, while low for the amount of shots against on average the Devils allow per game, is still 13 points better than MAF's.

    It's also not like Brodeur has never won a Stanley Cup either

    I like MAF and I think his game is turning around and he's starting to his stride and as he enters the very beginnings of his prime is going to get better... he just lucked out having to compete against someone like Brodeur who might go down as the best goalie in the history of the NHL

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    but the goalie equipment is smaller since 4 to 5 years

    Roy use to add 2X6 ( in eth epurpose to look bigger....

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    Look if Brodeur ia the starting Goal Tender for the Canada team it is ok, this will give flury a little more rest and i will take Flurry over Brodeur in the playoffs any day

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    Genofan: great list you posted there but now I think I am more confused than ever as to who is the best goalie of all time.....Kipper: I think I agree with what you are saying although it isn't really as clear cut in my mind as to who is better as opposed to when I actually asked the question. When I was younger I thought Billy Smith and Grant Fuhr were some of the greatest goalies I ever saw, along with Andy Moog.

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    Is Brodeur better than Roy at this point?
    IMO, Roy is the better goalie. He did it with two different teams. Broduer has benefited from the NJ Devils system. Defense is a team concept! Broduer is a heck of a goalie and his puck handling skills allow the Devils to be successful at that system. But, as we saw last year when Broduer was injured, the Devils were still pretty good (defensively) with Scott Clemmensen in goal. Clemmensen posted a 25-13-1 record and two shutouts. His 25 wins were the highest total by a goaltender besides Brodeur in franchise history, while his 2.39 GAA and .917 save percentage were statistically in the league's top ten.

    In their head to head meeting in the 2001 Stanley Cup... Roy skated away with the Cup.

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    I ****ing hate Roy, but I think he's better than Brodeur.
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    You don't think? Stanley Cup winning goalie last year. And his stats this year. If there wasn't, maybe there should have been.
    Brodeur has how many wins this season? How many records does he have? He's playing extremely well and is the elder statesman, something Team Canada has always liked.

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