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    I sat here all season and wondered how Big Ben even remotely thought he needed to be lumped into a conversation with Brady, Manning and Brees. There is nothing in his history that remotely suggests that he is in this class of QB's. Yes he won 2 superbowls. Just remember that Jeff Hostetler and Trent Dilfer also won a superbowl. If you really look at Manning career as well as Brady's career is that they always had a great running game (except for the colts this year). When Ben was controlling the 2 superbowl wins he was great because the defense had to respect the run. It appears this year he got into Arians little, 78 IQ head and convinced him that he was Brett Favre. This single act doomed this year. Because they could not eat up 4th quarter minutes by controlling the ball, the aged defense was forced to be on the field for an eternity in 4th quarters this year. Too many 3 and outs. No question he hit some bombs in the 4th quarter this year but still he was running just a few plays and guess what...the defense was back on the field! Terry Bradshaw called his own plays but he didn't let his ego get in the way of winning the game the best way...controlling the ball! Bradshaw didn't need to throw for 4000 yards and 35 TD's to win superbowls. Big Ben needs to learn this. He needs to go back and watch some of the past superbowls and see how many teams threw up and down the field AND WON!
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    I sat here all season and wondered how Big Ben even remotely thought he needed to be lumped into a conversation with Brady, Manning and Brees. There is nothing in his history that remotely suggests that he is in this class of QB's. Yes he won 2 superbowls. Just remember that Jeff Hostetler and Trent Dilfer also won a superbowl. If you really look at Manning career as well as Brady's career is that they always had a great running game (except for the colts this year). When Ben was controlling the 2 superbowl wins he was great because the defense had to respect the run. It appears this year he got into Arians little, 78 IQ head and convinced him that he was Brett Favre. This single act doomed this year. Because they could not eat up 4th quarter minutes by controlling the ball, the aged defense was forced to be on the field for an eternity in 4th quarters this year. Too many 3 and outs. No question he hit some bombs in the 4th quarter this year but still he was running just a few plays and guess what...the defense was back on the field! Terry Bradshaw called his own plays but he didn't let his ego get in the way of winning the game the best way...controlling the ball! Bradshaw didn't need to throw for 4000 yards and 35 TD's to win superbowls. Big Ben needs to learn this. He needs to go back and watch some of the past superbowls and see how many teams threw up and down the field AND WON!
    I saw a few weeks ago that the Steelers ranked something like 4th in time of possession. The reason the "D" can't get off the field is because they give up big plays..especially on 3rd down.
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    Yea, maybe he can play on defense as well--- Come on... after a season like this, we are going to place blame on Ben???

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    Oh brother

    I'd like to see how many SB's Bradshaw could win with the 09 defense

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    I sat here all season and wondered how Big Ben even remotely thought he needed to be lumped into a conversation with Brady, Manning and Brees. There is nothing in his history that remotely suggests that he is in this class of QB's. Yes he won 2 superbowls. Just remember that Jeff Hostetler and Trent Dilfer also won a superbowl. If you really look at Manning career as well as Brady's career is that they always had a great running game (except for the colts this year). When Ben was controlling the 2 superbowl wins he was great because the defense had to respect the run. It appears this year he got into Arians little, 78 IQ head and convinced him that he was Brett Favre. This single act doomed this year. Because they could not eat up 4th quarter minutes by controlling the ball, the aged defense was forced to be on the field for an eternity in 4th quarters this year. Too many 3 and outs. No question he hit some bombs in the 4th quarter this year but still he was running just a few plays and guess what...the defense was back on the field! Terry Bradshaw called his own plays but he didn't let his ego get in the way of winning the game the best way...controlling the ball! Bradshaw didn't need to throw for 4000 yards and 35 TD's to win superbowls. Big Ben needs to learn this. He needs to go back and watch some of the past superbowls and see how many teams threw up and down the field AND WON!
    You´ve got to be kidding me.

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    More like three swings, and nothing but air---

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    First off...


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    This is Pittsburgh, so there always has to be someone that blames the QB.....and then brings up Bradshaw on top of that......a guy who Steeler fans also used to blame for everything when he played.

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    Quote Originally Posted by First off, love the show View Post
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    I sat here all season and wondered how Big Ben even remotely thought he needed to be lumped into a conversation with Brady, Manning and Brees. There is nothing in his history that remotely suggests that he is in this class of QB's. Yes he won 2 superbowls. Just remember that Jeff Hostetler and Trent Dilfer also won a superbowl. If you really look at Manning career as well as Brady's career is that they always had a great running game (except for the colts this year). [HIGH-LIGHT]When Ben was controlling the 2 superbowl wins he was great because the defense had to respect the run. [/HIGH-LIGHT] It appears this year he got into Arians little, 78 IQ head and convinced him that he was Brett Favre. This single act doomed this year. Because they could not eat up 4th quarter minutes by controlling the ball, the aged defense was forced to be on the field for an eternity in 4th quarters this year. Too many 3 and outs. No question he hit some bombs in the 4th quarter this year but still he was running just a few plays and guess what...the defense was back on the field! Terry Bradshaw called his own plays but he didn't let his ego get in the way of winning the game the best way...controlling the ball! Bradshaw didn't need to throw for 4000 yards and 35 TD's to win superbowls. Big Ben needs to learn this. He needs to go back and watch some of the past superbowls and see how many teams threw up and down the field AND WON!
    Don't think many teams were worried about our run game last year, considering the injury situation and who was starting, plus the great run blocking O line we had.

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    Bradshaw was allowed to call his own plays for one. Two, Bradshaw had practically a HOF o-line and at least pro-bowl players on that o-line. He had one of the premier running games at the time. He also had a couple of receivers hmm, I think their names were Swann and Stallworth.
    There defense was the defense that all teams are measured against and including these teams today.

    The only problem Ben has, he wants Arians to remain.

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    The 2009 Steeler offense was better than the 2008 offense in both rushing yards and time of possession while also having Ben throw for 1,000 more yards, 9 more TDs, and 3 fewer INTs. He also stopped fumbling the ball so much. The 2008 offense wasn't particularly good at anything. The 2007 offense was also significantly better than the 2008 one, and had a great running game. If you're going to make an argument that they need to improve in certain areas you probably shouldn't cite last year as a season where they were better.

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    Your right, Ben can learn from Bradshaw. Ben should get to call his own plays, especially if Arians is retained. Unlike Arians, Ben should learn how to set up defenses, throw the ball away, and to truly become a leader.
    Ben has all the intelligence and skill and can escape pressure and make big plays down field like no other QB in the league. When he becomes more disciplined, Ben will become a top 3 QB in the NFL.
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    I sat here all season and wondered how Big Ben even remotely thought he needed to be lumped into a conversation with Brady, Manning and Brees. There is nothing in his history that remotely suggests that he is in this class of QB's. Yes he won 2 superbowls. Just remember that Jeff Hostetler and Trent Dilfer also won a superbowl. If you really look at Manning career as well as Brady's career is that they always had a great running game (except for the colts this year). When Ben was controlling the 2 superbowl wins he was great because the defense had to respect the run. It appears this year he got into Arians little, 78 IQ head and convinced him that he was Brett Favre. This single act doomed this year. Because they could not eat up 4th quarter minutes by controlling the ball, the aged defense was forced to be on the field for an eternity in 4th quarters this year. Too many 3 and outs. No question he hit some bombs in the 4th quarter this year but still he was running just a few plays and guess what...the defense was back on the field! Terry Bradshaw called his own plays but he didn't let his ego get in the way of winning the game the best way...controlling the ball! Bradshaw didn't need to throw for 4000 yards and 35 TD's to win superbowls. Big Ben needs to learn this. He needs to go back and watch some of the past superbowls and see how many teams threw up and down the field AND WON!





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    Bradshaw threw 25 INT's in 1979. He wasn't a perfect QB and he got booed by Steeler fans in the 70's. You were probably one of them. But he was a great QB because he knew what a great defense he had backing him up.

    Ben has carried this team on his back to two Super Bowl wins. Yeah it would be nice to take the air out of the ball in the second half when we get the lead but this offense hasn't shown that capability. And the Defense hasn't backed up Ben to get him the wins. The team needs better red zone efficiency, better turnover ratio and the D must step up and make plays. Some of that is on Ben but not much.

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    Ben has proved himself and his record backs him up. 22 times, he has brought the Steelers back in the 4th quarter/OT from a tie or a deficit, and it could have been 5 more times this year if the defense could have made it stand.
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    While Ben has accomplished much, he still has much to learn. IMO, if he had an OC who understood offensive strategy, Ben would be a lot further ahead and looked at as a top 3 QB. Arians is holding him back.
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