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    According to Mychael Urban of CSNBayArea.com, the Athletics have "broached the subject" of trading for Andy LaRoche of the Pirates. The Athletics made a big play for Adrian Beltre before he signed with the Red Sox, but they are still looking for a solution at third base. The 26-year-old LaRoche is an interesting case, as the Pirates have young Pedro Alvarez rapidly rising through their minor league system. LaRoche batted just .258/.330/.410 with 12 home runs and 64 RBI last season, but hinted that there is some power in his bat after all by slamming eight home runs after the All-Star break. According to Urban, the Athletics have also considered a trade for Kevin Kouzmanoff of the Padres.
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    Default Re: Andy LaRoche being pursued?

    That is interesting.

    The question is.... what the hell is Andy Laroche's value? We know he was originally worth 1/4 of Jason Bay ... would kinda suck to see Neil Walker...

    I just wonder if anything in return for andy Laroche would be worth more than just holding onto Andy

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    That is interesting.

    The question is.... what the hell is Andy Laroche's value? We know he was originally worth 1/4 of Jason Bay ... would kinda suck to see Neil Walker...

    [HIGH-LIGHT]I just wonder if anything in return for andy Laroche would be worth more than just holding onto Andy[/HIGH-LIGHT]
    That's the key question right there. His return is bound to be minimal. I would prefer to keep him and revisit a trade at a later date. If he shows the power we need, maybe he's the right handed power hitting outfielder the team is looking for.

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    That's the key question right there. His return is bound to be minimal. I would prefer to keep him and revisit a trade at a later date. If he shows the power we need, maybe he's the right handed power hitting outfielder the team is looking for.
    Definitely. I just can't see his value right now being worth a useful return. Now... if he hits well and shows some power by the trade deadline and Pedro is up .... LaRoche's value could increase.

    I'd personally stay put unless the value is worth it

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    Do you guys think if he played a full season at 2B and did indeed hit with power....say maybe 15-20 homers, that his value would be higher hitting around .280 with 17 homers at 3B or .280 with 17 homers at 2B?

    I guess what I am getting at is in my mind he would hold more value hitting
    .280 with 17 homers at 2B but I am not sure. Just what I would guess.

    If Pedro is ready at the break to come up and rake, would LaRoche be a better option at 2B than Iwamura? Could the time from now until Pedro arrives really be a tryout between Iwamura and Andy to see who is hitting better and once Pedro comes up the better hitter gets 2B?

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    Default Re: Andy LaRoche being pursued?

    If they give us sometheing of value why not.

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    I don't get it. I thought Andy was just the sort of guy NH was pursuing. A highly touted prospect for the Dodgers with a lot of upside, young and under control for several years. How is trading him NOW before Alvarez is ready consistent with the plan? Even then, if he shows the power they predicted wouldn't he be a perfect fit at second? Aki isn't our long term answer at second is he?
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    Default Re: Andy LaRoche being pursued?

    The Pirates WILL NOT trade Laroche unless they get something very meaningful in return. Which Oakland probably won't be inclined to do.

    He is the starting 3rd baseman until Pedro comes up...
    He's young and has potential to improve
    He might be next years starting 2nd baseman.

    Think about it…. why trade this guy unless you get a big return....it just doesn't make sense!

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    The Pirates WILL NOT trade Laroche unless they get something very meaningful in return. Which Oakland probably won't be inclined to do.

    He is the starting 3rd baseman until Pedro comes up...
    He's young and has potential to improve
    He might be next years starting 2nd baseman.


    Think about it…. why trade this guy unless you get a big return....it just doesn't make sense!
    Agreed.

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    Default Re: Andy LaRoche being pursued?

    They would have to be blown away to trade him now.

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    Exploring a trade for Laroche now makes sense because his future with the organization is highly uncertain. NH needs to try and get the A's or someone to overpay for him with a high level pitching prospect . That's probably not going to happen therefore Andy will stay here. But it never hurts to find out your player's value.

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    I'd only do this deal for a number no less than a #4 starting pitcher or shut down closer. Since they are unlikely to get either of those, then...

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    Laroche is a good piece for us and fits what NH wants to do. As has been said before, that is also what other teams want to do. I imagine that is why teh A's are asking. I would not trade Laroche unless I got a very good haul. He may be able to handle second, may be needed at 3B if Pedro has to move to 1B, or if he evolves into a .280/20Hr guy may be a good option at 3B with Akinori at 2B and Pedro at 1B. Clement and Jones are not sure things, so I think this last one is a real option.

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    I found this tidbit interesting:

    12:50pm: Slusser now says Tejada's representatives contacted the A's, not the other way around. The chances of a reunion don't sound great.

    She says the A's inquired on Andy LaRoche a while ago, only to hear that the Pirates wanted Ryan Sweeney and Gio Gonzalez in return. Slusser suggests the A's would like to acquire a high-quality young infielder to play third or short. Failing that, the team could turn to a bargain free agent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dcm8299 View Post
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    I found this tidbit interesting:

    12:50pm: Slusser now says Tejada's representatives contacted the A's, not the other way around. The chances of a reunion don't sound great.

    She says the A's inquired on Andy LaRoche a while ago, only to hear that the Pirates wanted Ryan Sweeney and Gio Gonzalez in return. Slusser suggests the A's would like to acquire a high-quality young infielder to play third or short. Failing that, the team could turn to a bargain free agent.
    If that asking price was so high that they just walked away immediately then they likely weren't all that interested to begin with. Gonzalez is young and has talent, but he's been pretty awful through 24 MLB starts, and was never truly dominant in the minors either. Sweeney's a decent defender, but doesn't really do much particularly well on the offensive side. I do think it's too much to give up for Andy LaRoche at this point, but as a starting point in trade negotiations it doesn't seem ridiculous to ask for.

    Sounds like the A's were hoping the Pirates were just looking to unload LaRoche to clear a spot for Alvarez, which thankfully doesn't seem to be the case.
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