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    The North Side Notch weighs in... what do you think?

    "Alright, now that it seems like the Pirates have locked up the last of their free agent signings for the offseason, let's take a stab on what the opening day roster will look like. The majority of the pitching staff looks like it is already set, along with most of the position spots. The main battle in spring training will be the one for the 5th starter between Kevin Hart, Dan McCutchen, and perhaps even Brad Lincoln. At shortstop, it seems like Ronny Cedeno is the front runner for the job, but Bobby Crosby could take it from him. In the bullpen there is one, maybe two spots to be had. So here we go...

    2010 Opening Day Roster Prediction:

    SP - Zach Duke
    SP - Paul Maholm
    SP - Ross Ohlendorf
    SP - Charlie Morton
    SP - Dan McCutchen

    RP - Kevin Hart
    RP - D.J. Carrasco
    RP - Javier Lopez
    RP - Evan Meek
    RP - Joel Hanrahan
    RP - Brendan Donnelly
    CP - Octavio Dotel

    C - Ryan Doumit
    1B - Jeff Clement
    2B - Akinori Iwamura
    3B - Andy LaRoche
    SS - Ronny Cedeno
    LF - Lastings Milledge
    CF - Andrew McCutchen
    RF - Garrett Jones

    B - Ryan Church
    B - Jason Jaramillo
    B - Bobby Crosby
    B - Delwyn Young
    B - Brandon Moss

    The notable absence is our Rule 5 Draft pick, John Raynor. I just do not think he will make the team over Moss and will be returned to Marlins. Dan McCutchen will win the 5th starter spot, thus forcing Hart to the bullpen, where I think he is better suited. I also think Cedeno goes into the season as the starter at shortstop. However, Crosby will probably get his fair share of playing time. Also missing is IF Ramon Vazquez. I think he, and his $2 million salary, will be released."
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    I completely agree with everything except for Raynor. One of Moss and Young could be gone. Might be a matter of how Raynor does in regards to some small things the coaches watch for in Spring Training.

    If I had to choose I'd probably put Moss on the cut list.

    I'll say it now that I didn't understand the concept completely behind choosing Raynor in the Rule V and if he doesnt make the cut, not only will it have been a dumb/bad pick but a wasted Rule V

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    I completely agree with everything except for Raynor. One of Moss and Young could be gone. Might be a matter of how Raynor does in regards to some small things the coaches watch for in Spring Training.

    If I had to choose I'd probably put Moss on the cut list.

    I'll say it now that I didn't understand the concept completely behind choosing Raynor in the Rule V and if he doesnt make the cut, not only will it have been a dumb/bad pick but a wasted Rule V
    What about Brandon Jones? NSN didn't even mention him but it seems like a three-way battle between Moss, Raynor, and Jones.

    I like the idea of cutting Vazquez. I hope they do it.

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    Vasquez is pretty useless in my eyes as well.

    I forgot about Brandon Jones, but can't Jones go to the minors if need be?

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    I don't see Raynor making the team either, but I do see Vazquez on it. There would seem to be a need for a second back-up INF'er. DY doesn't count in that regard. IMO the only way Vazquez gets cut is if someone else is acquired or somehow Neil Walker proves he is worthy of a utility INF role.

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    Jones has an option remaining as does Pearce. that's 2 switch hitters, 2 lefties and one righthanded bat off the bench. I wouldn't disagree with that, but I'd almost bet Vazquez doesn't get released, but I'd prefer it. I agree that the last spot will come down to Raynor and Moss.

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    Jones has an option remaining as does Pearce. that's 2 switch hitters, 2 lefties and one righthanded bat off the bench. I wouldn't disagree with that, but I'd almost bet Vazquez doesn't get released, but I'd prefer it. I agree that the last spot will come down to Raynor and Moss.
    Yeah I wouldnt be surprised if they kept Vasquez but would prefer him being gone as well.

    Moss/Raynor is tough. I don't really have a preference but I cant even get into NH's head on reasons to really choose one over the other

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    Brian at Raise the Jolly Roger weighs in...

    Crosby the starter at SS and Veal as the second lefty in the bullpen and Kevin hart to Indy....

    "STARTING LINEUP:
    A. McCutchen, CF
    Iwamura, 2B
    Jones, RF
    Doumit ,C
    Milledge, LF
    Clement, 1B
    LaRoche, 3B
    Crosby, SS
    Ohlendorf, SP
    It’s really a toss-up, but I think Crosby will start at short. The only thing about this lineup that really bothers me is lack of a powerful #4 hitter (unless Doumit returns to form, of course). Hopefully he, Milledge, or Clement can step up, or else I would like to see Aki lead off, Andy hit 2nd, Cutch 3rd, and Jones 4th.
    The starting rotation:
    Ohlendorf (R)
    Duke (L)
    Maholm (L)
    Morton (R)
    D. McCutchen (R)
    Based on their performances in Pirate uniforms, it’s obvious that OtherCutch should get the #5 nod over Kevin Hart. That could change, though. Everything else is pretty much set. Honestly, this could turn out to be a pretty solid rotation.
    Bench:
    Jaramillo, C
    Church, OF
    D. Young, 2B/OF
    Cedeno, SS
    Raynor, OF
    This is probably the toughest section to predict. JJ, Church, and Cedeno are all locks. Delwyn Young can play a few different spots and is a great pinch-hitter, so he should be there. Then, it’s between Ramon Vazquez (guaranteed $2M), Brandon Moss (out of options), and John Raynor (Pirates lose him back to FLA if he does not make the roster). Any of those three could end up there, but I’m going with Raynor based on the way the Bucs have treated Rule 5 picks in the past two years.
    Bullpen:
    Dotel (R), Closer
    Donnely (R)
    Hanrahan (R)
    Meek (R)
    Lopez (L)
    Carrasco (R)
    Veal (L)
    Everything is simple up until the 7th spot, which is a real doozy. It could be Chris Jakubauskas, Kevin Hart, Brian Bass, Steven Jackson, Jeff Karstens, or Veal. I doubt many others would have predicted Veal to end up with the spot, but I’m going with him in a wild-card choice – he’s lefty, and absolutely tore it up in the Arizona Fall League. I even liked what I saw during some points of last season when he was still extremely raw. I’ll throw myself out on a limb and say he’ll have a dominant spring and make the club"


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    I'll bet Brian at Raise the Jolly Roger a Big Mac that Veal isn't in the Pirate bullpen but in the Indy starting rotation.

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    I'll bet Brian at Raise the Jolly Roger a Big Mac that Veal isn't in the Pirate bullpen but in the Indy starting rotation.
    I'll super size it for you

    They're going to give Veal a chance to really fail first before moving him to the pen and it probably isn't happening this year

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    I'll super size it for you

    They're going to give Veal a chance to really fail first before moving him to the pen and it probably isn't happening this year
    I guess people forget that Veal has been a starter his whole career and that he was put in the pen last year to hide him.

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    I guess people forget that Veal has been a starter his whole career and that he was put in the pen last year to hide him.
    Forget or possibly don't know. They could get caught up in reading long term projections where certain media guys have put Veal in the pen long term but yeah, I agree. I don't see Veal near the BP this season unless he is brutally bad starting which I don't expect

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    2010 Opening Day Roster Prediction:

    SP - Zach Duke thought he will be traded at the deadline and Lincoln will be called up.
    SP - Paul Maholm
    SP - Ross Ohlendorf
    SP - Charlie Morton
    SP - Dan McCutchen

    RP - Kevin Hart
    RP - D.J. Carrasco
    RP - Javier Lopez
    RP - Evan Meek
    RP - Joel Hanrahan
    RP - Brendan Donnelly
    CP - Octavio Dotel

    C - Ryan Doumit
    1B - Garrett Jones
    2B - Akinori Iwamura
    3B - Andy LaRoche
    SS - Ronny Cedeno
    LF - Lastings Milledge
    CF - Andrew McCutchen
    RF - Ryan Church

    B - Raynor the only speed option on the bench plus he can play cf to give McCuthen time off
    B - Jason Jaramillo
    B - Bobby Crosby
    B - DY or Moss (wild Card name here) Carlos Delgado or Hank Baylock

    Guys who miss out Pierce and Clement will start the year out a AAA. Clement D will be his down fall.

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    Veal will be the number 2 in the rotation down in Indinanapolis. They love his power arm and I hope he can be in the mix for the big club next year. He will be better than OP was before he took the roids.

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