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    The Rooney's kept DL, not Tomlin.

    And, yes, I do believe that he is asserting his authority as head coach.

    How else do you explain the emergence of Tampa COver Two on DL's defense?
    Haven't we always employed some version of the Cover 2??Pretty sure that we have.

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    In the 70's and early 80's.

    Didn't see that crap last year from DL.

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    In the 70's and early 80's.

    Didn't see that crap last year from DL.
    Well,I don't have a problem with incorporating the Cover 2 into our D.What I do have a problem with is DL using it if it isn't working.I seriously doubt that Tomlin would continue to use such scheme if DL had issues with its use.

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    Really?

    I can't see it being used so much unless Tomlin thought he could tweak the defense and make it better by doing such.

    Remember, that is what Tomlin used at Tampa and Minn. and swore it was the best thing since lap dances in the VIP room.

    I understand that you are a big Tomlin fan.

    I am too, to a degree.

    Where it stops is that I won't believe he is infallible.

    He's human just like everyone else.

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    Believe it or not, I thought both sides of the ball played fairly vanilla today.

    [HIGH-LIGHT]The defense didn't show any specialized blitz packages and the offense really only showed one or two hot plays from the book[/HIGH-LIGHT].
    Saved it all for the Vikunts.

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    The biggest downer for me was only scoring 27 pts against the Browns while putting up almost 600 yds of total offense.That is not good.Not at all.
    They didn't want to beat the spread.

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    Really?

    I can't see it being used so much unless Tomlin thought he could tweak the defense and make it better by doing such.

    Remember, that is what Tomlin used at Tampa and Minn. and swore it was the best thing since lap dances in the VIP room.

    I understand that you are a big Tomlin fan.

    I am too, to a degree.

    Where it stops is that I won't believe he is infallible.

    He's human just like everyone else.

    Well no **** BJG, noone said he was perfect. All that we are saying is that he's not sticking his nose into the D too much. Where do you get these theories from? Any cold hard evidence? Have proof that Tomlin and Lebeau are going toe to toe? If you're not bashing Arians you bash Tomlin, or any other scapegoat you can conduier up. Seems to me anyway.

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    You're right, jmd I definitely feel that way. We have the tools for complete dominance but a lot of times only scrape by with a win.

    I don't have a decade(s) of Steeler watching under my belt like some people might so they would know better than me, but the defense is just uncharacteristic right now.
    15th passing, 2nd rushing equates to something really scary. I could not believe how many holes we allowed open in the Lions game; their returned routinely got at least 15 yards in from the punt where we were getting to the 25 yd line.

    I'm definitely worried about the upcoming games.
    Ranked 3rd overall with only allowing 275.2 ypg...works for me...getting back to the "bend don't break" D mentality we are used to....what hurts is our score ranking on D (17th)....gave up too many points in those early losses....but the Vikunts are ranked 20th.

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    Well no **** BJG, noone said he was perfect. All that we are saying is that he's not sticking his nose into the D too much. Where do you get these theories from? Any cold hard evidence? Have proof that Tomlin and Lebeau are going toe to toe? If you're not bashing Arians you bash Tomlin, or any other scapegoat you can conduier up. Seems to me anyway.


    Bashing Tomlin???

    That's a huge stretch.

    I never said they were going toe to toe either.

    LeBeau is the kind of guy that would humbly acquiesce to Tomlin's wishes even if he didn't agree with them 100% because he respects the chain the command.

    LeBeau comes onto the field against detroit, walks purposely slow off the field and we see the Blitzburgh defense that is signature LeBeau produce three back to back sacks instead of the cover 2 we had watched fall apart earlier in the game and earlier in the season.

    What else do you need to see?

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    Well I hate to be so simplistic about things since you all are very knowledgeable about cover schemes and blitz packages and whatnot but I think one thing I want to throw in there is that I feel like the cover scheme and blitzing schemes have been very tapered and not aggressive.

    What I attribute to that isn't that Lebeau has lost anything or Tomlin is trying to intercede, rather I think that the D play calling has been less aggressive due to Troy being out. That's the way I see things and I do think Troy makes all the difference to our Defense. If Troy is healthy, it allows DL to get really aggressive and complex. Once Troy is healthy, we will see that old Nasty D come back. Have a little faith. Look at my sig and remember what this team is capable of.

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    Troy being out has been a factor, without a doubt.

    When Farrior went out in the Superbowl, they switched over to that cover two for a few plays too.

    Fitz split the field and took one to the house against it.

    They have at least ten more games to play and we can watch for it and see.

    If they play that against Farve this week, it will be a long game for the secondary.

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    Really?

    I can't see it being used so much unless Tomlin thought he could tweak the defense and make it better by doing such.

    Remember, that is what Tomlin used at Tampa and Minn. and swore it was the best thing since lap dances in the VIP room.

    I understand that you are a big Tomlin fan.

    I am too, to a degree.

    Where it stops is that I won't believe he is infallible.

    He's human just like everyone else.

    BJG,I am an admitted Tomlin fan,but that doesn't mean that I can't see when he's doing wrong.Anyway,when did Tomlin ever admit that the Cover 2 was the best scheme ever??I sure don't remember hearing it.Also,I have serious doubts that Tomlin would toy with any of DL's schemes.He has too much respect for him to even consider it.

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    Tomlin talked a lot about Tampa Cover 2 in his post hire interviews.

    A head coach is a head coach....

    They can and will make input where they feel they can be of value.

    I don't know...

    In his latest press conferences he sounds like he has given up on making any decisions on the offensive side saying things like "I don't really care. Ben Has complete control of the offense", and so on...

    I hope he just lets Dick let the dogs loose the rest of the season.

    Especially this week and next...

    Regardless of this week, we need a three TD lead going into the 4th in Denver to be comfortable.
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    Tomlin talked a lot about Tampa Cover 2 in his post hire interviews.

    A head coach is a head coach....

    They can and will make input where they feel they can be of value.

    I don't know...

    In his latest press conferences he sounds like he has given up on making any decisions on the offensive side saying things like "I don't really care. Ben Has complete control of the offense", and so on...

    I hope he just lets Dick let the dogs loose the rest of the season.

    Especially this week and next...

    Regardless of this week, we need a three TD lead going into the 4th in Denver to be comfortable.

    Ah,I don't think so.Now,if you said Minny,then I'd agree with you.Kyle Orton doesn't scare me in the least.

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