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    saw this floating around by Michael Wilbon

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    One of the biggest Olympic winners has to be Canada’s Sidney Crosby, who at 22 years old has already won Olympic Gold, the World Championship and the Stanley Cup. And for the second straight time Crosby went through Alexander Ovechkin en route to winning. If this doesn’t make Crosby the preeminent player in the world, I don’t know what does. Crosby didn’t exactly light it up, in terms of scoring; he’d have gone three straight games without a point had he not scored the game winner in OT against the U.S. But he did. And before that, Crosby’s team trashed Ovechkin’s Russian team, just as Crosby’s team went on the road to beat Oveckin’s team in a Game 7 during last year’s Stanley Cup playoffs.

    Capitals fans might as well stop with the argument that Ovechkin is a better player; sure he is a bigger scorer and more entertaining player. But he can’t get his team past Crosby’s teams and they’re undeniable rivals and will be for the length of their careers. Right now, Ovechkin would need a telescope to see Crosby, who’s that far ahead in this race.

    But far more disturbing is Ovechkin’s behavior in Vancouver. First, he shoved a female fan’s camera and reportedly she suffered bruises in the incident. Now comes the news that he broke the camera of a man asking for an interview. There is video of each incident. How this has gone largely un-discussed is nearly as annoying as Ovechkin’s churlish behavior. Is he so distraught about Crosby kicking his butt repeatedly that he has to take out his frustration by smashing people’s cameras? The woman referred to earlier was reportedly a fan who traveled from Russia to Vancouver to root on her hockey heroes, including Ovechkin.

    Somebody needs to get Ovechkin under control. Opponents have wondered whether his knee-on-knee hits are accidents. His own coach, Bruce Boudreau, wondered this season whether his star was out of control. At the time it seemed like Bordereau might have been overreacting; not now. Boudreau’s radar is simply more accurate than most. Remember two weeks ago when Tiger Woods said he was guilty of developing such a sense of entitlement he didn’t think the rules applied to him? Has Ovechkin reached that point? Does he think the rules of society and the ice don’t apply to him? The worst thing Ovechkin can have around town is too many apologists. Look where it got Gilbert Arenas a couple of years ago after he’d become, arguably, one of the five to ten best players in the NBA. Ovechkin is quite a bit better in his sport than Arenas is in his. If Crosby is a rough equivalent of a young Kobe Bryant, in terms of talent and results, then Ovechkin is a rough equivalent of LeBron James, which is to say young and physically unstoppable but as yet undecorated.

    That also means Ovechkin is far too good to be involved in something as stupid and as petty as grabbing a woman’s camera. Seriously, when is the last time an athlete of that stature, in any sport, was involved in such an incident? Don’t tell me Randy Johnson because was never as big a figure in baseball as Ovechkin is in hockey, and Unit at least confronted a member of the paparazzi, who are (in my mind) fair game for confrontation. But some ordinary fan, and a woman at that? Can you imagine Gretzky or Jordan or Elway or LeBron or Jeter doing such a thing? No, never. An inflated sense of self and entitlement can bring any athlete crashing down. All you have to do is listen to Tiger’s assessment of his own fall. Somehow, Ovechkin’s lapses in judgment (or was it a disregard of civility?) went largely unnoticed. Ovechkin is **** lucky he’s not black and playing basketball; my brethren in the national (and local) media would have put on their Sunday church robes and preached him to death by now. We’d have read about “those thug basketball players” and such. Ovechkin, apparently, is for whatever reasons, beyond their reach. He’s untouchable. All these folks writing and talking about the Winter Olympics and I haven’t seen a word of criticism directed at Ovechkin, famous as he is.

    Here’s the issue that should concern the Capitals. Every time a truly great athlete, and Ovechkin is that, thinks he’s above the law, a hard, steep fall seems to follow. Since Ovechkin appears to have gotten away this time with barely a scold, perhaps somebody in the Capitals organization or in Ovechkin’s life might seize the opportunity to get in his ear now. The cost for not doing so could be enormous.

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    Only have one thing to say about Ovechkin.





    Guess that's 3 things. Oh well.

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    Only have one thing to say about Ovechkin.





    Guess that's 3 things. Oh well.
    But those are 3 things you couldn't be more right about

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    I couldn't agree more with what he said, but here is my problem with this....Wilbon claims that if Ovechkin was Black and playing basketball that he would have been all over the news for this incident and getting beat down by every media outlet in America...which is true...However, he isn't, he is a hockey player (regardless of color) and as such, American media outlets simply don't cover hockey. THAT (IMO) is why you don't hear much about this incident.

    I'm surprised Wilbon climbed down off his ESPN high horse to even talk about the sport. The only time they cover Hockey is during the olympics and stanley cup finals.

    Anyway, like I said, I completely agree with what he said, I just would respect it more if it was a Hockey writer who said it and not an ESPN ******* who probably couldn't even tell you what city the Predators play in.
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    saw this floating around by Michael Wilbon

    Crosby miles ahead of Ovechkin

    One of the biggest Olympic winners has to be Canada’s Sidney Crosby, who at 22 years old has already won Olympic Gold, the World Championship and the Stanley Cup. And for the second straight time Crosby went through Alexander Ovechkin en route to winning. If this doesn’t make Crosby the preeminent player in the world, I don’t know what does. Crosby didn’t exactly light it up, in terms of scoring; he’d have gone three straight games without a point had he not scored the game winner in OT against the U.S. But he did. And before that, Crosby’s team trashed Ovechkin’s Russian team, just as Crosby’s team went on the road to beat Oveckin’s team in a Game 7 during last year’s Stanley Cup playoffs.

    Capitals fans might as well stop with the argument that Ovechkin is a better player; sure he is a bigger scorer and more entertaining player. But he can’t get his team past Crosby’s teams and they’re undeniable rivals and will be for the length of their careers. Right now, Ovechkin would need a telescope to see Crosby, who’s that far ahead in this race.

    But far more disturbing is Ovechkin’s behavior in Vancouver. First, he shoved a female fan’s camera and reportedly she suffered bruises in the incident. Now comes the news that he broke the camera of a man asking for an interview. There is video of each incident. How this has gone largely un-discussed is nearly as annoying as Ovechkin’s churlish behavior. Is he so distraught about Crosby kicking his butt repeatedly that he has to take out his frustration by smashing people’s cameras? The woman referred to earlier was reportedly a fan who traveled from Russia to Vancouver to root on her hockey heroes, including Ovechkin.

    Somebody needs to get Ovechkin under control. Opponents have wondered whether his knee-on-knee hits are accidents. His own coach, Bruce Boudreau, wondered this season whether his star was out of control. At the time it seemed like Bordereau might have been overreacting; not now. Boudreau’s radar is simply more accurate than most. Remember two weeks ago when Tiger Woods said he was guilty of developing such a sense of entitlement he didn’t think the rules applied to him? Has Ovechkin reached that point? Does he think the rules of society and the ice don’t apply to him? The worst thing Ovechkin can have around town is too many apologists. Look where it got Gilbert Arenas a couple of years ago after he’d become, arguably, one of the five to ten best players in the NBA. Ovechkin is quite a bit better in his sport than Arenas is in his. If Crosby is a rough equivalent of a young Kobe Bryant, in terms of talent and results, then Ovechkin is a rough equivalent of LeBron James, which is to say young and physically unstoppable but as yet undecorated.

    That also means Ovechkin is far too good to be involved in something as stupid and as petty as grabbing a woman’s camera. Seriously, when is the last time an athlete of that stature, in any sport, was involved in such an incident? Don’t tell me Randy Johnson because was never as big a figure in baseball as Ovechkin is in hockey, and Unit at least confronted a member of the paparazzi, who are (in my mind) fair game for confrontation. But some ordinary fan, and a woman at that? Can you imagine Gretzky or Jordan or Elway or LeBron or Jeter doing such a thing? No, never. An inflated sense of self and entitlement can bring any athlete crashing down. All you have to do is listen to Tiger’s assessment of his own fall. Somehow, Ovechkin’s lapses in judgment (or was it a disregard of civility?) went largely unnoticed. Ovechkin is **** lucky he’s not black and playing basketball; my brethren in the national (and local) media would have put on their Sunday church robes and preached him to death by now. We’d have read about “those thug basketball players” and such. Ovechkin, apparently, is for whatever reasons, beyond their reach. He’s untouchable. All these folks writing and talking about the Winter Olympics and I haven’t seen a word of criticism directed at Ovechkin, famous as he is.

    Here’s the issue that should concern the Capitals. Every time a truly great athlete, and Ovechkin is that, thinks he’s above the law, a hard, steep fall seems to follow. Since Ovechkin appears to have gotten away this time with barely a scold, perhaps somebody in the Capitals organization or in Ovechkin’s life might seize the opportunity to get in his ear now. The cost for not doing so could be enormous.
    Wow. I didn't hear any of this. If he's doing this ****, the league has to get his *** under control. Bravo to Sid. He's been very mature about all the media attention, even as a rookie.

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    I think it's in the Hate Room, there's a post with the youtube perhaps iof Ovechkin shoving the camera woman. It might be in the NHL room.. Can't remember but do remember seeing it

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    I couldn't agree more with what he said, but here is my problem with this....Wilbon claims that if Ovechkin was Black and playing basketball that he would have been all over the news for this incident and getting beat down by every media outlet in America...which is true...However, he isn't, he is a hockey player (regardless of color) and as such, American media outlets simply don't cover hockey. THAT (IMO) is why you don't hear much about this incident.

    I'm surprised Wilbon climbed down off his ESPN high horse to even talk about the sport. The only time they cover Hockey is during the olympics and stanley cup finals.

    Anyway, like I said, I completely agree with what he said, I just would respect it more if it was a Hockey writer who said it and not an ESPN ******* who probably couldn't even tell you what city the Predators play in.
    you know... it is annoying how Wilbon has to add race into just about every topic and subject and then cry that race is talked about but he does it just about every article so I can easily block it out. I honestly completely didn't even remember reading the race part

    you're right though, the reason this wasn't mentioned is because hockey doesn't get National TV coverage and definitely not an ESPN. the NBA does. it's as simple as that unless you are like Wilbon and have an agenda to make more out of it

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    you know... it is annoying how Wilbon has to add race into just about every topic and subject and then cry that race is talked about but he does it just about every article so I can easily block it out. I honestly completely didn't even remember reading the race part

    you're right though, the reason this wasn't mentioned is because hockey doesn't get National TV coverage and definitely not an ESPN. the NBA does. it's as simple as that unless you are like Wilbon and have an agenda to make more out of it
    I find wilbon to be a HUGE BLOWHARD. On the other hand it is ESPN.

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    I find wilbon to be a HUGE BLOWHARD. On the other hand it is ESPN.
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    Makes me realize how lucky we are. Remember how UNLUCKY we all thought we were when the ping pong ball DIDN'T go our way? The Pens finished dead last in the entire NHL, and it STILL wasn't good enough for number one. We had to 'settle' for Malkin. Well, the very next year, the ball DID go our way, and we got Sid. And now, I'd take Malkin over Ovechkin again ANY day. It is truly amazing the talent we've been fortunate enough to see in Penguins' uniforms since the 80's.

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    you know... it is annoying how Wilbon has to add race into just about every topic and subject and then cry that race is talked about but he does it just about every article so I can easily block it out. I honestly completely didn't even remember reading the race part

    you're right though, the reason this wasn't mentioned is because hockey doesn't get National TV coverage and definitely not an ESPN. the NBA does. it's as simple as that unless you are like Wilbon and have an agenda to make more out of it
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    That is the sure fire way to get a famous response!
    Definitely. Reporting and writing used to be about presenting good articles, be the one that reporting the facts and the truth, being the guy that could be relied on...

    At some point that all changed, when greed took over and the goal was to make ceo's as much money as possible. That's when writers went from fact finding and being reliable sources and credible sources to nothing more than people looking for a subject that will easily create conflict. It's all about bringing in the attention at whatever cost, not about truth, facts, credibility, honesty and reliability. It's a quick shock and awe world now

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    I love it!

    He "went thru Ovechkin"!!! hahahahaha
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