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    Default Great perspective on the "State of the Steelers"

    A great perspective by Dale Lolley, and a very worthwhile read. A link to his blog is located at the bottom....
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    Tuesday, March 30, 2010
    What in the world is going on with the Steelers?

    I've had the question posed to me a number of times: "What's going on with the Steelers? Why are so many guys getting in trouble?"

    The answer has many facets.

    First and foremost is the fact that players in the NFL today make more money and are better-known than at any other time in league history.

    Football in the past couple of decades surpassed baseball as America's favorite sport and in this digital age where sponsors are constantly using stars to sell their wares and ESPN constantly brings these guys into America's living rooms, NFL players are more well-known than ever before.

    Not only does that make them celebrities, it makes them targets.

    At the same time, the money and fame can inflate egos, making a guy that was perhaps humble at one time, change over the course of a few years. In 17 years of covering the NFL, I've seen it happen again and again.

    Money and the salary cap also become a factor. Teams can get rid of coaches or front office people a lot easier than they can players. The players know this and, if they so choose, can take advantage of it.

    The other thing about the digital age is that not only does it allow the media to perform its job more easily - making plenty of information readily available - it also allows for forums such as this one to discuss at great length anything that comes up.

    I'm not saying that's a bad things. Fans should have places they can go to talk to others of a like mind. But, it does allow for the flames to be fanned on issues.

    And because information is so readily available, things cannot be covered up or hidden as easily as they could, say, 10 to 20 years ago.

    Think about it this way: Remember Penn State's squeaky-clean image of 20 years ago. Now think about the trouble Penn State players have gotten into in recent years. Think those kind of things - frat fights, public intoxication, etc. didn't happen before? It's now much more difficult for things to be swept aside.

    There have always been guys who get in trouble on every professional team's roster. When you are dealing with that many people - particulary young men, they are going to do some stupid things.

    And let's face it, the NFL isn't populated by choir boys. These guys are playing in the NFL because they're stronger, faster, tougher than 99.9 percent of the population. In many cases, they've been pampered throughout their lives because of that.

    But they also have to be smart enough to know that they cannot put themselves into situations where they not only jeopardize their own character and/or wealth, but also the image of the league and their respective team.

    This current group of Steelers has had its share of run-ins, both minor and major, with the law. And that is out of character for a team that has prided itself on not having players like that.

    But it's not a problem that is foreign to all NFL teams or sports teams in general.

    What can the team do about it? Short of releasing every player who has an indiscetion, something that's not likely to happen, it can pull in the reigns on these guys and also educate them better on what will and will not be tolerated.

    When a player is guaranteed a large sum of money, he begins to feel as if he's bullet proof. And professional athletes feel that way already. If they didn't, they would not be able to do many of the things they do in their respective sports.

    Has Mike Tomlin given this team too much freedom in terms of treating them like men and professionals? Perhaps.

    But the reality is that there's not a lot he can do short of releasing offenders outright - again, something that's not going to happen in every case.

    He's in the business of coaching a football team, not babysitting.

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    Here's another good read from BTSC.........
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    The Character of the Pittsburgh Steelers Has Never Changed
    by maryrose on Mar 30, 2010

    Steeler Nation should be celebrating these days. Usually the team loses more talent than it acquires in the winter months, prompting fans to hope that the Draft replenishes the void. This offseason, the Steelers have done an admirable job of re-signing their own players, never an easy task, plus add depth with some old friends who know the system and their roles in it. Unfortunately, instead of feeling good about the state-of-the-Nation, the clouds of indiscretion are blocking the sunshine. Star players are showing up in the news, and not in a good way.

    This creates conflict in the minds and hearts of the greatest fan base on earth. Steelers' fans are outwardly proud of the organization they represent. They want to believe that every part of the organization, from ownership down to the players, is impeccably above board when it comes to character issues. To be sure, there is indeed much to be proud of, and we talk about those elements often. But make no mistake, the football players on the Pittsburgh Steelers are no different than anyone else - no better, no worse. Never have been and never will be.

    The Steelers began in the 1930s and had the most notorious player in the league. His name was Johnny "Blood" McNally and his nickname was self-imposed. McNally's talent was too good for Art Rooney to pass by. In his first game (1937) he returned a kickoff for a 92-yard touchdown and caught a 44-yard touchdown pass. McNally was also the head coach, as wild as any man in the league. He actually missed a game once thinking it was scheduled on another day. Blood's carousing was legendary. To impress a female admirer who wanted an autograph, McNally cut his arm with a razor and signed his name in Blood. He was so mischievous back in the day, the players worried more about the coach than vice versa.



    Bobby Layne's binges were also legendary when he quarterbacked the Steelers in the early 1960s. After getting plastered at Dante's, a popular watering hole, Layne smashed his car into a parked streetcar. This was in the wee hours of a night preceding a football game. His teammate, Big Daddy Lipscomb, killed himself with a heroin overdose and Ernie Holmes shot a gun at a police helicopter, hitting the officer in the foot. Steroids in the 70s were rampant on every team, including the Steelers, and a man who scored a touchdown in the 1995 Super Bowl, Bam Morris, was later caught driving with five pounds of pot in his car. There's no need to go on.

    Typically, most calamities in life usually happen in bunches as opposed to being neatly spread out over time. The law of averages is rarely incremental. Just ask our AFC North rivals, the Bengals, Browns and Ravens. They've all had their share of behavioral discord, and when it rains it pours. Truth be told, the management of any NFL franchise, when hearing about something negative about a player from another team, whispers to themselves, "but for the grace of God, there go I." No team is any more or less susceptible.

    True, selecting draft choices and signing free agents is done with "character" being one of the criteria. This is not done for vanity purposes, or trying to make your team look pristine. Character is not considered because your team is somehow more righteous than another. It is considered because there is a risk involved in throwing boatloads of money at a player; and minimizing that risk is a part of the equation.

    Also true is the double standard dilemma, which is difficult for some people to some to terms with. In Utopia, there are no double standards. All are treated equally in every situation. In the real world, there is a standard for each of us, based upon asset and liability, deposits and withdrawals. In the NFL, there are 53 standards on every team. If you are a borderline practice player and you cause a stir in the locker-room, you are as good as gone. A star wide receiver, with more upside to weigh against the downside, gets more rope. When the great Bill Belichick was the defensive coordinator of the New York Giants, Lawrence Taylor came to team meetings stoned out of his mind. He and Bill Parcels knew darn well, but they couldn't stop it, short of losing Lawrence Taylor. You do what you can and then settle for Sunday. Releasing a player like Taylor would only result in him wearing another uniform that beats you.

    That's no different than corporate America. Break sales records every month and you will not hear a whimper for coming in late occasionally. Become a company deadbeat and you will be fired at the first indiscretion. It's called supply and demand, pros versus cons, and it's called real life. There are multiple standards everywhere. If a high school coach and accountant get caught smoking pot, only one will lose his job.

    But there is something else about "real life" that modern athletes need to understand. That is, how much it is changing. Gone are the days of the Wild West. Gone are the halcyon days of the 1970s. Gone are the swashbuckling days when a coach and owner could get into a fistfight on a train ride (Joe Bach and Art Rooney in 1936), when boys were boys. (Bach, by the way, was the best man in Rooney's wedding five years earlier, and was hired back 16 years later.) The world is getting closer and closer to zero tolerance of anything. Pinch a woman on the behind and you better be prepared for sexual assault charges. Say anything that borders on racism and you better be prepared to find another job. School teachers are afraid of administering discipline in fear of getting sued for the "pain and suffering" of a minor.

    Thirty-five years ago, pinching a woman would get you a dirty look or a whack with a handbag. If a teacher punished you at school, your father doubled it when you got home. Today, dad runs to see a lawyer. It's the world we've become. What was once social mischief is now feeding grounds for our legal system. Professional athletes need to live in 2010, not 1975, like it or not. They need to understand how much they have to lose. They need to understand that they cannot remotely put themselves in position to even raise issue or doubt. They need to understand that behavior in a 1975 fraternity house is unacceptable in a 2010 nightclub.

    Athletes also need to understand that while we all have different levels of risk management, you can't apply the same level in every situation. Some of us are riverboat gamblers; some of us won't take the warning tag off the pillow case; and most of us are somewhere in between. But all of us better have the sense to know when to hold 'em and know when to walk away. Hold the ball too long in the backfield and you're liable to be put away by a man wearing a football uniform. Stay in a nightclub too long and you're liable to be put away by a man wearing a robe. Know the difference.

    I don't need any athlete to ever be a role model to Maryrose. That's my job. I don't want her to think of football players as heroes. I want to be her hero. I have no problem telling her that our guys are just like everyone else, vulnerable to the pitfalls of life. I am also quick to point out that there is plenty of character within the Pittsburgh Steelers' organization. The ownership has proven since 1933 to be among the most stable and elite in NFL history. The fan base is second to none. Just turn on a television set during a Steelers' road game and admire, along with the announcers, all the gold towels waving in the stands. The quality of play has also been second to none since the NFL-AFL merger in 1970. Six Super Bowls proves that. There are plenty of things to be proud of as a Pittsburgh Steelers' fan, but make no mistake, players are players and they are the same on every team. hey come in all sizes, shapes, styles and demeanors. It has always been that way and always will be.


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    I hope everybody reads this "the sky is not falling ' its just the way it is boys!

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    I hope everybody reads this "the sky is not falling ' its just the way it is boys!

    I can't believe anyone actually believes that the Steelers are held to higher standards.....

    See James Harrison and Cedrick Wilson.

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    I can't believe anyone actually believes that the Steelers are held to higher standards.....

    See James Harrison and Cedrick Wilson.
    Hey!... We've had a confirmed "bdeff sighting"!......

    ... Just good to see you posting again, brother, that's all.....

    ... As to the comment... I never believed that OTHER people held the team to a higher standard, but I always wanted to believe that we did "things" better than other organizations... Yea, the Harrison and Wilson issues were there, but until recently, it appeared that they were more the "exception" than the norm...

    But as these two articles really do spell-out an awful lot of good perspectives... I'm as guilty as any other die-hard fan... But the reality is "what it is"....
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    Has Mike Tomlin given this team too much freedom in terms of treating them like men and professionals? Perhaps.

    But the reality is that there's not a lot he can do short of releasing offenders outright - again, something that's not going to happen in every case.

    He's in the business of coaching a football team, not babysitting.

    *cough*Mike Tomlin bashers*cough*

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    I think the reality is Holmes won't be with the Steelers in a few more years and if Ben ****s up one more time in public he's off the team.

    I've bashed Tomlin here and there on some issues but one thing I've really liked about him is how much he seems to value high character players. You look at most of the players that have been drafted since Tomlin has been here and they have generally been good character guys like Hood, Wallace, Woodley. As a fan I really like that and appreciate it.

    Maybe Tomlin should've been hired as head of the scouting department.

    The FO did a really good job under Cowher as well, but there's definitely a difference in some of the players that have been drafted under both coaches in terms of character guys (Holmes, Plax, Ben(??!!)

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    I think the reality is Holmes won't be with the Steelers in a few more years and if Ben ****s up one more time in public he's off the team.
    I completely agree about Holmes... He's gonna be due a payday, and I just don't think we are the ones that are gonna give it to him... Very similar to Plex.

    ... As for Ben, I think we're gonna try (key word) to tollerate his **** because he really is the "franchise" in alot of ways.... Where it goes is anyone's guess, but I can only think that management is about as ****ed as alot of us are... So who knows....
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    I completely agree about Holmes... He's gonna be due a payday, and I just don't think we are the ones that are gonna give it to him... Very similar to Plex.

    ... As for Ben, I think we're gonna try (key word) to tollerate his **** because he really is the "franchise" in alot of ways.... Where it goes is anyone's guess, but I can only think that management is about as ****ed as alot of us are... So who knows....
    I think it's a combination of how much money he'll want AND the legal trouble, extracurricular activity, etc. but who knows.

    I guess on his Twitter account he told a fan to go kill himself and that he's getting a big payday. Basically told fans to go **** themselves. I'm guessing someone in the Steelers organization will have heard about it. That can't be good.

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    I think it's a combination of how much money he'll want AND the legal trouble, extracurricular activity, etc. but who knows.

    I guess on his Twitter account he told a fan to go kill himself and that he's getting a big payday. Basically told fans to go **** themselves. I'm guessing someone in the Steelers organization will have heard about it. That can't be good.
    Yea... As you said, it will be a "combination" of all the factors... His twitter messages have made their way into threads, and they just make me shake my head... I can only imagine what management is thinking about them.

    .... I just think that he's gonna be "gone" for whatever the reason. Take your pick... Either way, I think that his ability to re-sign with our team has been seriously hampered and he'll be gone.... I dunno.... Guess we just wait and see.
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