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    Ed Bouchette from the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette put out an article recently discussing the Steelers interests in drafting Oklahoma State left tackle, Russell Okung. Ed went a little further in discussing how the Steelers have ignored Offensive Tackles in the Draft but have drafted Guards. As it is with most of Ed Bouchette's columns he spends all of his time telling you something and acting surprised by it. You continue to read, expecting an explanation and you never get it.

    You don't get the explanation because guys like Ed Bouchette are only able to deliver us the obvious. Ed is either reporting something as it can be known as ; Copying and Pasting or telling us something most of us know. What we never get is an explanation for why things happen.

    Why do the Steelers routinely put more emphasis on Guards than Tackles?

    The Steelers have always been a running team. More importantly a power running team. Power running teams are strong up the middle which means having your O-Line strength strong at Center and Guards. You can be mediocre on the edges when your offensive scheme is power running. When your offensive scheme is designed to run a high percentage of plays behind your Center and Guards.

    The Steelers are no longer a power running team however. They aren't even a solid running team, no matter what they say because of one man - Bruce Arians. That's another story though. There's nothing about Bruce's schemes and preferences and ideologies that screams - Successful Run Game. The guy is a pass happy Offensive Coordinator and more than that, Bruce is all about 5-7 step drops and deep routed passing games. He's even admitted to not liking 3 step drops just like he has admitted to not liking Full Backs in favor of lining up an extra Tight End .

    There's nothing wrong with being a more Passing oriented offense. You design your Offense around it's strengths and the Steelers offensive strength has been it's QB - Ben Roethlisberger.

    In Bruce Arians' offense, with the personnel this team has on offense, the Steelers are the opposite of where they have been in the past and have been that way since about 2005, yet the line has been constructed backwards.

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ID:	4606Backwards in that the Steelers strength turned into Throwing and Speed, not Physicality. The Steelers had a QB for the first time since Terry Bradshaw that could throw the ball with accuracy and our main running back then Willie Parker was more of an edge rusher with small size and speed. The Offensive Line for THAT personnel should've been strong on the edges. The Tackles should've been the strength and they were and still are far from being a strength unless you think Max Starks and Willie Colon can handle edge rushers 1 on 1 or Gimpy Marvel Smith and Max Starks could a few years back.

    The problem with the Steelers is that the Front Office's mindset has been so locked in with a Power Running Offense, that going to more of a Pass and Speed oriented Offense is like foreign territory to them. Sure, the Steelers offense at the end of the 1970's was more of a Passing team, but that was a different era.

    The Steelers need to start putting an emphasis on having the Tackles become their strength on the O-Line after the Center of course. With Ben dropping back to pass more than 55% of the time, you need to protect his Blind Side. Ben likes to scramble and buy timeso you need to protect him more on the edges. Rashaard Mendenhall isn't Jerome Bettis, Mendenhall is a faster back who can get physical if need be, but he's stronger in space. Mendenhall can turn a corner.

    The Steelers put more emphasis on Centers and Guards because that was what the personnel and Offensive style and scheme dictated. It was correct. The problem is that the personnel and Offensive scheme has changed and the Offensive Line philosophy hasn't. This has lead to a few more sacks and a running game that isn't as strong as it could be.

    With the 2010 NFL draft almost upon us and a lot of chatter going on regarding who the Steelers will draft, who the Steelers should draft and so on.. If the choice is between Guard or Tackle.. I'm drafting a Tackle. It makes more sense for this offense and would be the bigger help.
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    He's even admitted to not liking 3 step drops just like he has admitted to not liking Full Backs in favor of lining up an extra Tight End .
    That is just genius. See when you have such an excellent blocker like Spaeth who needs a friggin fullback.


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    That is just genius. See when you have such an excellent blocker like Spaeth who needs a friggin fullback.

    I've got a couple of good Arians rants saved up for posting at a later time. I like to sort of save those things

    Speaking of Spaeth... what a waste of a draft pick. Average at best hands, soft blocker etc... For what spaeth does we could've picked up and have done so for years out of the crap heap of players in NFL that go fromteam to team for minimum salary... No, we have to waste draft picks on them while we allow the Defensive Line to get old enough to resemble the Patriots linebackers and fool ourselves into thinking that Willie Colon is an acceptable tackle
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    I've got a couple of good Arians rants saved up for posting at a later time. I like to sort of save those things

    Speaking of Spaeth... what a waste of a draft pick. Average at best hands, soft blocker etc... For what spaeth does we could've picked up and have done so for years out of the crap heap of players in NFL that go fromteam to team for minimum salary... No, we have to waste draft picks on them while we allow the Defensive Line to get old enough to resemble the Patriots linebackers and fool ourselves into thinking that Willie Colon is an acceptable tackle

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    Hogefan will cry like a baby looking for a tit to suck when he reads that.

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    I fully expect very few to agree on our Spaeth opinions

    I'm very value minded with players in any sport. I'm all about getting the most and the best for as little as possible. If a player is drafted I want more productivity than you can get for the cheap in Free Agency or waiver wire. Even if the productivity is slightly better than that... it's still not enough for me personally.
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    Hogefan will cry like a baby looking for a tit to suck when he reads that.

    Thats the first thing I thought of too

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    Default Re: The Backwards Construction Of The Steelers O-Line

    same here.

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    We still have yet to use Heath Miller the way he should be used. Why they would ever kept Spaeth around is a mystery. Brucey boy likes him some blocking tight ends and Spaeth sure doesn't fit that bill. I think he could be a decent recieving tight end but we already have a great one of those we don't use.

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    I've got a couple of good Arians rants saved up for posting at a later time. I like to sort of save those things

    Speaking of Spaeth... what a waste of a draft pick. Average at best hands, soft blocker etc... For what spaeth does we could've picked up and have done so for years out of the crap heap of players in NFL that go fromteam to team for minimum salary... No, we have to waste draft picks on them while we allow the Defensive Line to get old enough to resemble the Patriots linebackers and fool ourselves into thinking that Willie Colon is an acceptable tackle

    I can't believe we still have spaeth -- I just don't get it -- he's awful he get RB's killed cause of his terrible blocking skills. We need to get rid of that guy and keep Johnson #85 he is a much better blocker.

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    We still have yet to use Heath Miller the way he should be used. Why they would ever kept Spaeth around is a mystery. Brucey boy likes him some blocking tight ends and Spaeth sure doesn't fit that bill. I think he could be a decent recieving tight end but we already have a great one of those we don't use.
    didn't heath have the best year of any steeler tight end this past year?

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    We need to get rid of that guy and keep Johnson #85 he is a much better blocker.

    Johnson, McHugh and/or maybe a late round draft pick should be kept and Spaeth should get his walking papers.

    He's worthless as a pass receiver but he makes up for it by blocking like Jeff Reed tackles.

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