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    It's sloppy, because the regular page has images, and I'm too lazy to go through the whole thing and put the proper spacing in.

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    http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/insid...ory?id=5214034

    We're just two weeks from the 2010 Rule 4 MLB draft, close enough that the teams selecting in the top half of the first round are narrowing their preference lists to the point where we can talk intelligently about who their likely targets will be. Teams in the top 10 are telling me they're more confident that they know who will be available at their picks. Teams in Round 1's second half, meanwhile, still see a ton of variability to the point where a typical team in the 20s might see a guy it thought would have no shot to fall to it actually drop to its pick. I'm guessing that by this time next week we'll be clearer through at least Picks 20-25, once the college conference tournaments are behind us and scouting departments begin convening their final pre-draft meetings.

    Both Austin Wilson and Zach Lee are absent from this projection, but I think both would go in the first round if they were clearly willing to sign. Wilson has a strong commitment to Stanford, and Lee has a commitment not just to LSU but also to football. Anthony Ranaudo, at one point the presumptive No. 2 pick in the draft, also is missing, as he hasn't been the same pitcher since returning from a minor elbow injury.

    I'll update this list several times before the draft, including a final update on the morning of June 7. I'll also update my top 100 rankings while adding reports on more players. One other resource: the full 2010 MLB draft order.


    Washington Nationals
    Bryce Harper, C, College of Southern Nevada

    Harper just blitzed his way through the district finals, ending the finals 12-for-13 with four homers -- again while facing pitchers two or three years older. There's no argument left for taking anyone else, if there ever was one in the first place. Scouting video of Harper can be viewed here.

    [HIGH-LIGHT]Pittsburgh Pirates
    Manny Machado, SS, Brito Miami Private High School (Fla.)

    The Pirates' mix includes four or five serious candidates, with Machado and Ole Miss lefty Drew Pomeranz at the top of the list. Pomeranz would cost less and get to the majors much faster, but the big lefty doesn't have Machado's ceiling and hasn't thrown well since he strained a pectoral muscle several weeks ago. Scouting video of Machado can be viewed here.[/HIGH-LIGHT]

    Baltimore Orioles
    Jameson Taillon, RHP, The Woodlands High School (Texas)

    There had been some word that Orioles GM Andy MacPhail wanted to take a college player after last year's first-rounder, Matt Hobgood, took a while to sign and then showed up in less-than-perfect conditioning this spring. However, the scouting department's ardor for Taillon's electric arm seems to have won out.

    Kansas City Royals
    Chris Sale, LHP, Florida Gulf Coast University

    Similar to the situation in Baltimore, the Royals were supposedly told by ownership to take a college player after Mike Moustakas and Eric Hosmer (both top-four picks out of high school) had disappointing 2009 seasons, but I imagine that's changed because those might be the two best-hitting prospects in the minors right now. Royals scouting director J.J. Picollo went to see Sale three consecutive Fridays in April, and that's not something a scouting director typically does unless it's for a top candidate for his first pick. The Royals also have been linked to switch-hitting Miami catcher Yasmani Grandal and have interest in Pomeranz.

    Cleveland Indians
    Drew Pomeranz, LHP, Ole Miss

    If Pom Pom is gone, I expect Cleveland to take Texas-Arlington slugger Michael Choice. The Indians have conducted background checks on both players as well as Sale.


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    Updated.

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    Nothing changed for us in Monday's 2.0 Draft, he has another one due out tomorrow:

    http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/draft...ory?id=5235926

    Pittsburgh Pirates
    Manny Machado, SS, Brito Miami Private High School (Fla.)
    Still possible they take Drew Pomeranz, but the odds of them taking Jameson Taillon remain slim.

    Here's ESPN's scouting synopsis of Machado:

    http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/draft.../manny-machado

    Machado is going to get the Alex Rodriguez comparison -- tall, athletic, right-handed-hitting Latino shortstop from a Miami-area high school -- but A-Rod Lite is more apt, since he's not preternaturally gifted as a hitter as A-Rod was.

    Machado can hit, though, with strong, quick wrists, good rotation, and excellent extension through his swing; he does wrap his bat briefly but clears it as he loads, making it something of a red herring. He has line drive power now, but he's going to have more power down the road as he gets stronger.

    Machado has a 70 arm and good hands at shortstop; there's some sentiment that he'll outgrow the position, as he's going to fill out significantly over the next ten years, but he has the tools to be a plus defender there and I imagine it'll take a lot to convince the team that drafts him to move him to third base. He will need help with his footwork and needs to quiet down his game, as he has the habit of many talented teenagers of trying to make the flashy play. He's committed to Florida International but is very unlikely to attend school.

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    Pomeranz should not even be in the discussion, honestly. It should come down to Machado and Taillon...they are the best two players available.

    Machado still worries me as a hitter.
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    Kevin Goldstein from Baseball Prospectus said the talent level in the draft goes:

    Bryce Harper
    (Pretty big gap)
    Jameson Taillon
    (Decent sized gap)
    Manny Machado
    (Big gap)
    About 20 other guys who are fairly close

    That's pretty much how everyone saw last year's draft too. Luckily this time the Pirates pick on of those top 3 spots. Hopefully they don't whiff on the pick.

    Goldstein also said that he prefers Chris Sale to Drew Pomeranz.

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    FWIW, Law had Tallion going to Baltimore at the #3 spot.

    Here's the scouting on him:

    http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/draft...ameson-taillon

    Taillon is the hardest-throwing pitcher among the top prep arms this year, touching 98 or better in many of his starts this spring. He'll sit 93-97 most outings and pairs it with a short, hard-breaking slider with good tilt at 83-87 mph, as well as a hard changeup that he rarely uses.

    He has a strong tendency to rush through his delivery, getting his whole body offline and causing his fastball to flatten out and ride up to his glove side. That same tendency also makes his slider more hittable, finishing up in the zone, and as a result, scouts have seen hitters square up Taillon's pitches all spring, a major concern for a high school arm throwing this hard. He has tremendous arm speed and uses his lower half well, but needs some guidance for his upper half, which is surprising given how long he's been working with private pitching coaches.

    Taillon offers number-one starter stuff in a workhorse body, but player development will have some work to do cleaning up his delivery and keeping him online.

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    Kevin Goldstein from Baseball Prospectus said the talent level in the draft goes:

    Bryce Harper
    (Pretty big gap)
    Jameson Taillon
    (Decent sized gap)
    Manny Machado
    (Big gap)
    About 20 other guys who are fairly close

    That's pretty much how everyone saw last year's draft too. Luckily this time the Pirates pick on of those top 3 spots. Hopefully they don't whiff on the pick.

    Goldstein also said that he prefers Chris Sale to Drew Pomeranz.
    I agree with Goldstein...

    Machado is the 3rd best player in this draft...he's got upside, but not nearly as much as Taillon...they wont select Taillon though...and I certainly hope they dont select Pomeranz
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    FWIW, Law had Tallion going to Baltimore at the #3 spot.

    Here's the scouting on him:

    http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/draft...ameson-taillon
    I agree with Law here...but if you make the mechanics adjustments you have an ACE. Risk-reward is high here...that's why they'll go with Machado...less risk...less reward.
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    I agree with Law here...but if you make the mechanics adjustments you have an ACE. Risk-reward is high here...that's why they'll go with Machado...less risk...[HIGH-LIGHT]less reward[/HIGH-LIGHT].

    I don't know man, having an "A-Rod lite" sure sounds like a great reward to me.

    IMO, on the field, I'd describe Jeter as an "A-Rod lite", and if this guy can become that, then it's tremendous.

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    BA has a mock from Sunday as:

    http://www.baseballrumormill.com/201...eball-america/

    1) Washington Nationals: Bryce Harper, College of Southern Nevada, C
    2) Pittsburgh Pirates: Manny Machado, Brito HS, SS
    3) Baltimore Orioles: Jameson Taillon, The Woodlands, RHP

    And here's a link to a bunch of different mocks:

    http://www.baseballrumormill.com/tags/mock-draft/

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    To me it is simple Machado will cost less to sign then Tallion and plays a postion we need. We have no top end SS in our system. Morris has a least a in house Ace type, plus i think Lincoln could be a 2nd. IF it came down to sign Machado and then loading up on high end highschoolers like last year with Sanchex I like that. We have no impact bats really in A or AA but some impact pitchers.

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    To me it is simple Machado will cost less to sign then Tallion and plays a postion we need. We have no top end SS in our system. Morris has a least a in house Ace type, plus i think Lincoln could be a 2nd. IF it came down to sign Machado and then loading up on high end highschoolers like last year with Sanchex I like that. We have no impact bats really in A or AA but some impact pitchers.

    If possible, drafting that high, you take the best player that you can, regardless of what you already have in the system. I'm not a proponent of drafting for need in the baseball draft. I still like Machado, but not on a 'need basis'.

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    I don't know man, having an "A-Rod lite" sure sounds like a great reward to me.

    IMO, on the field, I'd describe Jeter as an "A-Rod lite", and if this guy can become that, then it's tremendous.
    He has not shown anything close to A-Rod, A-Rod lite, or Derek Jeter bat/hitting. He has shown flashes of ability that leads to projections of average to above average (although not plus) hitting, but has not exactly shown it...

    I am not dogging his upside or potential...I am not saying he sucks or it would be a terrible pick...I am saying that the way THIS draft is shaping up its basically he may just be the pick the Pirates NEED to make, but let's not say that he's even close to #2s of past drafts etc...or even the A-Rod comparisons...that's almost as crazy as the Harper "Lebron James" crap...I think its basically 1A: Harper, 1B: Harper, 3A: Taillon, 3B: Taillon, 5. Machado.........and then a HUGE drop off....I am MORE than OK with the Pirates selecting Machado...but I am not going to over-blow his ability or projection.
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    To me it is simple Machado will cost less to sign then Tallion and plays a postion we need. We have no top end SS in our system. Morris has a least a in house Ace type, plus i think Lincoln could be a 2nd. IF it came down to sign Machado and then loading up on high end highschoolers like last year with Sanchex I like that. We have no impact bats really in A or AA but some impact pitchers.
    Umm...there are few H.S. in this draft with high end projection as last year.

    There are some good/decent college talent in the middle rounds though.

    I also do not understand where you got the fact we have no impact bats...have you looked at the minor leagues? We have some decent hitters...big power bats? No...but no impact? Certainly not either.
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    He has not shown anything close to A-Rod, A-Rod lite, or Derek Jeter bat/hitting. He has shown flashes of ability that leads to projections of average to above average (although not plus) hitting, but has not exactly shown it...

    I am not dogging his upside or potential...I am not saying he sucks or it would be a terrible pick...I am saying that the way THIS draft is shaping up its basically he may just be the pick the Pirates NEED to make, but let's not say that he's even close to #2s of past drafts etc...or even the A-Rod comparisons...that's almost as crazy as the Harper "Lebron James" crap...I think its basically 1A: Harper, 1B: Harper, 3A: Taillon, 3B: Taillon, 5. Machado.........and then a HUGE drop off....I am MORE than OK with the Pirates selecting Machado...but I am not going to over-blow his ability or projection.

    Hey, don't shoot the messenger. I was just quoting that scouting report that said he was 'A-Rod Lite'. Said scouting report seems to think that he'll be a very good hitter, just not a consistent 30-40 HR type of guy like A-Rod.

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