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    Default The Matt Capps That We Know...

    ... has arrived in DC.

    Smizik had this post:

    http://community.post-gazette.com/bl...-vs-capps.aspx

    The Pirates took a heavy hit for the way they botched the contract negotiations with Matt Capps in the off-season and allowed him to become a free agent over a relatively small amount of money.

    The criticism became stronger as Capps quickly established himself as one of the most successful closers in the National League with the Washington Nationals. Capps leads the NL with 17 saves.

    But the criticism of the Pirates has lessened considerably because of the performance of Octovio Dotel, the closer they signed to replace Capps.

    Unlike Capps, Dotel got off to a poor start. But look at their numbers since the end of April.

    Saves: Dotel 9, Capps 7.

    Blown saves: Dotel 0, Capps 2.

    Innings: Dotel 12, Capps 11 2/3

    Strikeouts: Dotel 18, Capps 8

    Hits allowed: Dotel 4, Capps 16

    Wins-losses: Dotel 1-0, Capps 0-2.

    Earned run average: Dotel 0.75; Capps 5.40

    Annual salary: Dotel $3.25 million, Capps $3.5 million

    In terms of contractual status, Capps will be a free agent after the season; the Pirates have an option on Dotel for 2011.

    Not as one-sided as it was in April.
    And that doesn't include today's stinkbomb by Capps:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/recap;_y...?gid=300603118

    Carlos Lee hit a two-run homer in the ninth off Matt Capps after the Astros tied it on Cristian Guzmanís error in right field and Houston rallied for a 6-4 win over the Washington Nationals on Thursday.

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    Default Re: The Matt Capps That We Know...

    i have been trying to keep tabs on capps because i thought he was ****, glad he is still proving to be a steaming load

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    Default Re: The Matt Capps That We Know...

    Strasburg is going to take a roster spot soon. I know the answer but Capp's spot would be a good place to start.

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    It would be great to see Capps blow a save in Strasburg's debut against us. Kind of poetic justice.

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    Default Re: The Matt Capps That We Know...

    He's just not that good. Never was.

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    Default Re: The Matt Capps That We Know...

    Two Words...

    "Chris Shelton"

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    Here is the thing. We could have had Capps and Dotel. We gave away an asset for nothing because we did not want to pay. That is a losing mentality. Baseball is about maximizing assets and we had Capps for two more years in arbitration. We likely would have won his arbitration this year if he insisted on $4M so his pay would have been $3M and we could have used him in relief and eventually traded him. I have no problem deciding that Capps is not a long term part of the team (i guess...), but giving him away fro nothing when you have a $36M payroll is stupid.

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    Here is the thing. We could have had Capps and Dotel. We gave away an asset for nothing because we did not want to pay. That is a losing mentality. Baseball is about maximizing assets and we had Capps for two more years in arbitration. We likely would have won his arbitration this year if he insisted on $4M so his pay would have been $3M and we could have used him in relief and eventually traded him. I have no problem deciding that Capps is not a long term part of the team (i guess...), but giving him away fro nothing when you have a $36M payroll is stupid.

    With Meek, Hanrahan, and now Dotel, there was no need to keep Capps, who's gotten worse every year he's been/was here.

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    Capps has been stinking it up, but has anyone noticed that Nyjer, their CF savior has been a)moved to 2b, b)not hitting c)getting thrown out stealiing 45% of the time and d) getting run on with his Juan Pierre arm?

    Also, Burnett has been getting hit at a .350+ clip vs lefites.

    Looks like Hanrahan was the only 'keeper'?

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    a) should be moved to batting second...he didn't pull a 'neil walker'

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    Default Re: The Matt Capps That We Know...

    Quote Originally Posted by PE1 View Post
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    Here is the thing. We could have had Capps and Dotel. We gave away an asset for nothing because we did not want to pay. That is a losing mentality. Baseball is about maximizing assets and we had Capps for two more years in arbitration. We likely would have won his arbitration this year if he insisted on $4M so his pay would have been $3M and we could have used him in relief and eventually traded him. I have no problem deciding that Capps is not a long term part of the team (i guess...), but giving him away fro nothing when you have a $36M payroll is stupid.
    I understand that concept except that it's a matter of opinion of whether Capps was even an asset worth keeping? I said it at the time and continue to stick with it, that Capps wasn't worth nowhere near the price he wanted. He's not a good enough closer which would make his price drop big time IMO and even then it's questionable whether he'd still be good enough as a late game/set up type player.

    To me, losing mentality would be holding onto Matt Capps and overpaying him. Those are the types of moves and decisions that the Pirates have been famous for making. It was nice to see us just flat out cut lose from a guy that can't regain his form for whatever reasons
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    I understand that concept except that it's a matter of opinion of whether Capps was even an asset worth keeping? I said it at the time and continue to stick with it, that Capps wasn't worth nowhere near the price he wanted. He's not a good enough closer which would make his price drop big time IMO and even then it's questionable whether he'd still be good enough as a late game/set up type player.

    To me, losing mentality would be holding onto Matt Capps and overpaying him. Those are the types of moves and decisions that the Pirates have been famous for making. It was nice to see us just flat out cut lose from a guy that can't regain his form for whatever reasons
    I have to agree. For me, cutting loose Capps and signing Dotel, even though he got the loss today, was a no brainer. Gas Can Capps was and is overrated!

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