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    Default July 2 - Latin American prospects

    We probably won't see anything, but the big day is coming up Friday so I figured we should have a thread. Signings will mostly be the "Gayo guys" who no one else ever heard of, but the Pirates have been connected to a couple players.

    3B Elvis Sanchez out of the Dominican has been linked to the Pirates a couple places. Basically just an excellent raw power hitter. He's been working out for teams in the US recently. Shouldn't be an extremely high bonus, but definitely on the upper end of what the Pirates have ever spent. Video:

    RHP Luis Heredia out of Mexico is the big name they've been linked to. Price tag may be as high as $3 million as they'll also be buying him out of his Mexican deal. Several teams are interested, but the Pirates and Blue Jays have apparently been going at him the hardest. Sits 89-91 with the fastball as a 16 year old, secondary stuff is kind of a work in progress. Dejan has an article on him here: http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/10153/1062457-63.stm

    The interesting thing about Heredia: He won't be eligible to sign until August 16. Obviously the Pirates should already have a lot going on with high profile teenage pitchers on August 16. Should be interesting.

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    How cool would it be to get Heredia+Taillon+Allie...all on the 16th! That'd be pretty awesome.
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    How cool would it be to get Heredia+Taillon+Allie...all on the 16th! That'd be pretty awesome.
    Get er' done Neal. By the way, lets not forget about Kingham, Kime and Kubitza too plus others!

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    Get er' done Neal. By the way, lets not forget about Kingham, Kime and Kubitza too plus others!
    Yeah, but I'd like to see them get done before the deadline.
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    You and me alike. Go 10 out of 10 for the first 10 rounds, sign Elvis Sanchez and I'll be a happy happy Bucco fan.

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    Baseball America has their preview up now. They group the teams in five groups, the top one being "High Rollers". That's where they have the Pirates.

    Pittsburgh Pirates: No, the Pirates didn't sign Miguel Sano last year, but neither did 28 other teams, and Sano's early success in the Dominican Summer League should be seen more as a testament to the Pirates' scouting staff than a disappointment in not signing him. The Pirates already landed one of the top prospects left over from last year's July 2 class in Dominican outfielder Willy Garcia, and they should be players for top international talent again this summer. International sources believe their No. 1 target is Mexican righthander Luis Heredia, the best pitcher on the international market who could command a bonus of around $3 million. Heredia won't be able to sign until he turns 16 on Aug. 16, which is conveniently the same day as the signing deadline for the draft. The Pirates have also shown interest in power-hitting Dominican third baseman Elvis Sanchez.

    And their top 33 (interesting number) by likely bonus:

    1. Esteilon Peguero, SS, Dominican Republic (video)
    2. Luis Heredia, RHP, Mexico
    3. Adonis Cardona, RHP, Venezuela
    4. Renato Nunez, 3B, Venezuela (video)
    5. Eskarlin Vazquez, RF, Dominican Republic
    6. Phillips Castillo, OF, Dominican Republic
    7. Vicmal de la Cruz, CF, Dominican Republic (video)
    8. Rougned Odor, SS, Venezuela (video)
    9. Wilmer Romero, CF, Dominican Republic (video)
    10. Ariel Ovando, OF, Dominican Republic (video)
    11. Humberto Arteaga, SS, Venezuela
    12. Jose Torres, RHP, Colombia
    13. Yorman Garcia, CF, Venezuela
    14. Gabriel Cenas, 3B, Venezuela
    15. Elvis Sanchez, 3B, Dominican Republic
    16. Angel Mejias, LHP, Venezuela
    17. Yoel Araujo, CF, Dominican Republic (video)
    18. Jordi Calderon, 3B, Venezuela
    19. Edwin Moreno, OF, Dominican Republic (video)
    20. Argy Raga, C, Venezuela
    21. Alberto Triunfel, SS, Dominican Republic
    22. Jose Tovar, LHP, Venezuela
    23. Pedro Perez, 3B, Colombia
    24. Yorman Landa, RHP, Venezuela
    25. Vicente Lupo, OF, Venezuela
    26. Antonio Gonzalez, SS, Dominican Republic
    27. Geronimo Franzua, LHP, Dominican Republic (video)
    28. Ronny Mejias, SS, Venezuela
    29. Christopher Tamarez, SS, Dominican Republic
    30. Luis Abad, RHP, Dominican Republic
    31. Felix Jorge, RHP, Dominican Republic
    32. Javier Pimentel, SS, Dominican Republic
    33. Anderson Gonzalez, SS, Venezuela

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    Here's some actual signing news from Dejan, although it doesn't have any info on ages or bonuses:

    Yunior Montero, right-handed pitcher, 6-4, 175, Dominican Republic: Team loves his frame with room to get stronger, ability to throw strikes. Fastball velocity and movement, as well as curve have above-average major-league potential.

    Cristian Henriquez, left-handed pitcher, 6-1, 175, Dominican Republic: Polished for his age, solid athlete, and his curve and changeup could be above-average pitches.

    Miguel De Aza, outfielder, bats left, 6-0, 170, Dominican Republic: Has a quick, short, strong swing, above-average arm, good speed.

    Rodney Polonia, shortstop, bats left, 5-10, 160, Dominican Republic: Son of former major-league outfielder Luis Polonia, very good instincts for game, hard-nosed, can steal bases and play good defense. Must get stronger.

    Yunior Valdez, outfielder, bats right, 6-3, 180, Dominican Republic: Highly athletic body type, has above-average potential in power, defense and speed.

    Melvin Rosario, left-handed pitcher, 6-2, 175, Dominican Republic: Strong frame, above-average athleticism and arm action, with potential for above-average fastball velocity and slider.


    Miguel DeAza is a 17 year old that they actually had an agreement with in May. I guess for some reason Dejan was given that name with the newer group.

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    I just heard tonight that "Elvis has left the stadium!"



    I hope he's headed for the Burg!

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    Hmm...It'd be great, but I dunno.
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    In other news, Miguel Sano made his US debut yesterday after hitting .344/.463/.547 with 3 HRs in 20 DSL games. He's 4-8 with 2 doubles and a walk in the GCL so far and was in the running for Kevin Goldstein's mid-season top 11 prospects still in the minors.

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    Kiss ***. Miguel Sano would make our minor league system look a LOT better.
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    If the Blue Jays are really still all over Heredia then their Latin American budget must be massive. In the last couple days they've spent nearly $3 million combined on two players.

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    If the Blue Jays are really still all over Heredia then their Latin American budget must be massive. In the last couple days they've spent nearly $3 million combined on two players.
    3 million is peanuts for most teams in attempts to try and get better and keep the minors stocked......we spent 4 million for an 2B with a bum wheel.

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    3 million is peanuts for most teams in attempts to try and get better and keep the minors stocked......we spent 4 million for an 2B with a bum wheel.
    I think you're overestimating the amount teams spend in Latin America on an annual basis. More than one major signing is entirely uncommon. Consider that in 2008 5 Latin American teenagers signed for $2 million or more. In 2009 it was 3 players (Miguel Sano, Gary Sanchez, and Guillermo Pimental). Prior to this year there have been 31 total who ever signed for $1 million or more. Based on the last 2 years there will be about 8 players who get a bonus of $1 million or more in a signing class, and maybe 20 more who get more than $500,000.

    Turns out my numbers on the Blue Jays there were actually too low and they had signed one player for $2.8 million another for $700,000. They had also given a $10 million contract to Cuban SS Adeiny Hechavarria (a 21 year old) earlier this year which isn't even included. For a team to go out and make another big ($2 million +) expenditure is almost unheard of.

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    From what's out there, the Pirates are at least in on 2 of the top 15 on that list. Let's hope they get one of them, preferably the pitcher

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