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    Logan must excel in return game to make team
    August 13, 2010
    By: JIM WEXELL
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    LATROBE - When asked about Stefan Logan's progress as a wide receiver, Steelers coach Mike Tomlin blamed himself, saying "I kind of stifled that development."

    OK, so who takes credit for the incredible catch Logan made deep down the sideline during Wednesday afternoon's practice?

    Of course, Logan deserves the credit, but he deflected it back to Tomlin.

    "Coach said it's time to step up," Logan said after making the top catch of the 2010 training camp on a throw from Charlie Batch.

    Batch hung the ball up deep, and Logan, who said his legs were too tired to run under it, dove with full extension and caught it with the end of his fingertips.

    "I knew I'd have to lay out for it," Logan said. "As coach likes to say, put it on tape."

    Logan, a converted running back, has put several kick returns on tape, particularly last year when he posted the best full-time kickoff return average (26.7) for the team in 20 years. But acrobatic catches are new to his resume.

    "I've never put anything like that on tape," he said. "It was a nice catch, but I was out of it. When I hit the ground I landed on the ball. I told myself when I hit the ground, 'Hey, be tough and get up, go back to the huddle, and come out for the next play.'"

    The crowd appreciated all of it and gave Logan what may have been the loudest ovation anyone's received this summer.

    Not bad for a 5-foot-6 return man who worked out at running back all offseason. But, really, there's only one aspect of the game at which Logan must excel this preseason: "He's going to make this team or not make this team based on what he does as a kick returner," said Tomlin.

    That's how Logan grabbed a spot last year. Facing a numbers crunch, the diminutive ex-CFL player made the 2009 Steelers roster as a return man because A.) The Steelers had very little competition there, and B.) He averaged 37 per kickoff and 21 per punt, including an 80-yarder for a touchdown in the preseason finale.

    This camp's a bit different. Logan is once again bettering straight-line speedster Mike Wallace in the return game, but there are two darting rookie receivers, Emmanuel Sanders and Antonio Brown, who ranked 10th and 11th in NCAA punt return average last season. They'll work as return men along with Logan in Saturday night's preseason opener.

    "Those guys, they're some good guys; good, humble guys," Logan said. "They play hard, they fight through the plays, they're young, and they're picking it up as they go. They're doing a good job. As far as the numbers game, I don't know. I'm just out here each and every day putting it all on tape, showing what I can do as far as my mobility and letting it all hang out."

    No, the numbers game does not favor Logan. But he's succeeded in similar circumstance, and then went on to put up some other numbers, the kind not seen since Rod Woodson was a daring, young kickoff return man in 1989.

    "I leave all of that up to the coaches and let them evaluate all the players," Logan said. "I know I'm No. 1 on the depth chart, and I intend to stay No. 1 by putting it all on the line every day."

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    Good luck Logan. His making the roster is gonna depend on his versatility and since I like underdogs, I hope Logan can pull another rabbit out of his *** and make this team, however, I see a Guy like Emmanuel Sanders taking over the KR duties leaving Logan the odd man out.
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    While Logan didn't return any the distance last year he also didn't exactly have the best blocking schemes and personnel out there either. One can't do it all by themselves unless you're a Hester/Cribbs type

    But... Logan provided the best kickoff return average for the Steelers since 1989. 10th in the league (10 returns or more), 26.7 return average on that special teams unit is very impressive. 13th in punt returns (10 returns or more) for a 9.3 average. How the hell the guy isn't guaranteed a job when we lack others who can do that is beyond me. Randel El hasn't had a punt return average over 6 since 2006 or returned more than 1 kick per season since 2004.

    Put some better blocking schemes and better special teams unit out there and Logan could possibly be exceptional.
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    While Logan didn't return any the distance last year [HIGH-LIGHT]he also didn't exactly have the best blocking schemes and personnel out there either.[/HIGH-LIGHT] One can't do it all by themselves unless you're a Hester/Cribbs type

    But... Logan provided the best kickoff return average for the Steelers since 1989. 10th in the league (10 returns or more), 26.7 return average on that special teams unit is very impressive. 13th in punt returns (10 returns or more) for a 9.3 average. How the hell the guy isn't guaranteed a job when we lack others who can do that is beyond me. Randel El hasn't had a punt return average over 6 since 2006 or returned more than 1 kick per season since 2004.

    Put some better blocking schemes and better special teams unit out there and Logan could possibly be exceptional.
    I thought they blocked him quite well - by getting to position and stopping dead, thus ensuring he ran into the back of the "blocker"
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    I read an article somewhere where the members of the STs were saying the blocking schemes under Everest are much easier to understand and everyone is on the same page now. If that's true, new LBs + decent return schemes may equal some solid results. I am so excited to see the Steelers play this weekend!

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    It would be exciting to see what he could do if they open some lanes for him. How many times did he have to run 80 yards to get a 25 yard return?
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    I'd rather one of the rookie WRs, Sanders or Brown, grab the return job(s). Logan is ok but he's not worth a roster spot just for returns. IMO.

    He's useless offensively.

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    I thought they blocked him quite well - by getting to position and stopping dead, thus ensuring he ran into the back of the "blocker"
    That's about it too. We were awful at wedges and blocking to sides of fields.

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    I read an article somewhere where the members of the STs were saying the blocking schemes under Everest are much easier to understand and everyone is on the same page now. If that's true, new LBs + decent return schemes may equal some solid results. I am so excited to see the Steelers play this weekend!
    Imagine if the Steelers maintain a return average of 25+ BUT also can improve their Return average against by a few yards and of course less TD's... the difference could be outstanding in terms of field positioning.

    Logan has the ability to go the distance. He doesn't run with hesitation and happy feet. Give the guy some actual holes and he could break some the distance
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    I'd rather one of the rookie WRs, Sanders or Brown, grab the return job(s). Logan is ok but he's not worth a roster spot just for returns. IMO.

    He's useless offensively.
    He is useless offensively but the Steelers generally have open roster spots for guys that do nothing but ride the pine anyways. Logan would at least be filling a void on a per game basis compare to some
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    He is useless offensively but the Steelers generally have open roster spots for guys that do nothing but ride the pine anyways. Logan would at least be filling a void on a per game basis compare to some
    If we can get a game changer in the return game I don't mind keeping him on the roster, it's worth it at that point. This preseason is crucial for the little man.

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    I'd rather one of the rookie WRs, Sanders or Brown, grab the return job(s). Logan is ok but he's not worth a roster spot just for returns. IMO.

    He's useless offensively.
    I may see this a little differently. I figure between kr and pr, Logan may touch the ball 7-10 times a game. I don't see the 4th or 5th WR being thrown to as much,

    Even if his offensive is limited, I wouldn't necessarily call it a wasted roster spot.

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    He is useless offensively but the Steelers generally have open roster spots for guys that do nothing but ride the pine anyways. Logan would at least be filling a void on a per game basis compare to some
    I can't remember where I read it this morning but somewhere on the interweb I read Logan, Sanders and Brown (maybe Burnett to I can't remember) will all be get a shot as returners. Also, every article I read about STs and/or the new ST coach he says "Ball security is first and foremost". Which is a good thing for Logan because I don't remember him having any ball security issues last year and we certainly don't need another year like 06 where Colclough has balls bouncing off his face mask.

    Anyway, if Sanders and Brown are as impessive on the field as they, reportedly, have been in camp I think they'll keep 6 WRs. That severely cripples Logan's chances unless we can't find someone to field returns cleanly.

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    I may see this a little differently. I figure between kr and pr, Logan may touch the ball 7-10 times a game. I don't see the 4th or 5th WR being thrown to as much,

    Even if his offensive is limited, I wouldn't necessarily call it a wasted roster spot.
    Well as I just said in my previous post, if Sanders and Brown continue to impress and if someone else shows they can handle return duties I'd hate to lose a potentiel WR just to keep Logan.

    I'm excited to see these rookie WRs.

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    Well as I just said in my previous post, if Sanders and Brown continue to impress and if someone else shows they can handle return duties I'd hate to lose a potentiel WR just to keep Logan.

    I'm excited to see these rookie WRs.
    That's what they make the practice squad for. They could keep 5 WR's and lineup Logan as one of them. He won't see the ball go his direction in a 5 wide set just like anyone else who is the 5th wideout in that situation. They don't run it that often either.

    to me, I think Logan can help out more right now in the present than Sanders or Brown and would keep a spot open for Logan and send one of Sanders and Brown to the PS
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    I'd say there is no chance Sanders makes it to the PS. Brown maybe and they have risked payers like that before. For example, Harris last season.

    I really think it depends on what the others show as returners. IF they show enough i think Logan is gone but Tomlin does seem to like him.

    so he's got that going for him, which is nice.

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