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    Default Next Year's Starting Rotation

    #1 - Ross Ohlendorf

    #2 - Paul Maholm

    #3 - FA

    #4 - James McDonald

    #5 - Duke/McCutcheon/Morton/Who Knows

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    #1 - Ross Ohlendorf

    #2 - Paul Maholm

    #3 - FA

    #4 - James McDonald

    #5 - Duke/McCutcheon/Morton/Who Knows
    Make #3 perhaps a trade acquisition and add Brad Lincoln to the fold as someone that will in all likelihood get one of the spots out of camp..

    So maybe ...

    #1 Ross Ohlendorf

    #2 Paul Maholm/Brad Lincoln/Morton/McCutchen/Karstens

    #3 Trade

    #4 James McDonald

    #5 Duke/Lincoln/Morton/McCutchen/Karstens
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    Default Re: Next Year's Starting Rotation

    Would the FO be willing to spend more in going after a top of the rotation guy or do you think they'll try to target someone who would be more of a middle rotation guy?

    Just curious. Seems to me that they now have a little more to offer (by way of an up and coming team) that given the right dollars may entice someone of higher caliber than Ohlendorf or Maholm.

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    Default Re: Next Year's Starting Rotation

    I think they'll target a Jason Marquis-type. A guy who costs some money and is good for 14-15 wins per year.

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    Would the FO be willing to spend more in going after a top of the rotation guy or do you think they'll try to target someone who would be more of a middle rotation guy?

    Just curious. Seems to me that they now have a little more to offer (by way of an up and coming team) that given the right dollars may entice someone of higher caliber than Ohlendorf or Maholm.
    I think it'll sort of depend on the price. It can't be someone that puts them in red ink right now, especially since they would have to show a ncie attendance increase to get that back. A team losing 100 games is an uncertainty the next season but I feel as if they would take a gamble in the offseason.

    Getting a #2 or #1 guy might not cost an arm and leg right now depending on the players age/control and things like that and then there's always the trade deadline next season too. Say the Pirates do miraculously look like a competitive team by the trade deadline. If the Pirates are competitive that by default should mean the division is closer in record since each of them wouldn't be getting the easy 10+ wins against the Pirates you might take that big gamble there. If you do that, then perhaps you think about maybe not busting your wad in this offseason trying to obtain an Ace but of course trying to upgrade the pitching staff.

    No idea what happens with the players. I think that Huntington will try to find some crap to compete in RF/1B and SS for Spring Training and I see him doing to the Bullpen what he did this past offseason.

    It should be an interesting offseason. We're now really at that point in the rebuilding process where you start improving the holes around the core and really are relying on that core to get better and be that backbone of production.
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    I think they'll target a Jason Marquis-type. A guy who costs some money and is good for 14-15 wins per year.
    *was*

    I remember in the offseason when the Nats signed him. I think it was PFIV talking about the great job Rizzo had done in the offseason for the Nats and I just kind of laughed at the Marquis signing. Waste of money and the guy completely busted this year and busted more than I had expected too!!

    I want nothing to do with those washed up expensive guys.

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    Well I was noting what I think they will do not what they should do.

    I agree with you on what they should do.

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    Default Re: Next Year's Starting Rotation

    Wholeheartedly agree that we do have a pretty solid core and agree that cost would be an issue. I guess thinking along those lines, given the number of core players under rookie contracts, do you gamble on a high cost #1 now knowing that players like Cutch, Pedro, Walker etc. won't be salary arbitration eligible for another year or two?

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    Default Re: Next Year's Starting Rotation

    I like Ohlendorf and McDonald and that's about it. I'd give Brad Lincoln every opportunity to be in the rotation too. I'd see what the trade market is for BOTH Maholm and Duke and try like hell to get them off of the team. They are not only below average pitchers but they are also links to the losing. I would try to sign at least one free agent--like a Brett Myers type, who the Astros got for about 3 million this year I think.

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    Default Re: Next Year's Starting Rotation

    Way too many ifs!

    Can Dorf stay healthy, while repeating the good performances of this year.

    McDonald has been hungry for the ball. How will he react to getting it for a year.

    Karstens needs built up, if possible. There is heart there.

    Duke and Maholm are good lower rotation guys, but we have many of those and they are getting expensive.

    McCutchen ....is a teamer......Morton...............when do you give up? When someone pushes him off the plank?

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    How soon can Owens, Wilson and Morris get here?? lol

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    I think maybe Bobby Cox may have vented a little bit. They certainly jumped all over Duke tonight. It's too bad because he has actually pitched pretty well this year. He just doesn't have an out pitch. He is a contact thrower that needs great defense and run support. I'm now agreeing with most here that the money he's going to want will be too much, but I hope they just don't give him away.

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    Default Re: Next Year's Starting Rotation

    1) Ross Ohlendorf
    2) Paul Maholm
    3) James McDonald
    4) Brad Lincoln
    5) Rudy Owens

    Goodbye Zach Duke!

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    Didn't Huntington say recently something like it's too early in the latest 5-year plan to be signing a top of the order guy?

    The game write-up on Duke's latest meltdown all but bid him goodbye. I say good riddance. That flash in his rookie year has never been seen again.

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    Make #3 perhaps a trade acquisition and add Brad Lincoln to the fold as someone that will in all likelihood get one of the spots out of camp..

    So maybe ...

    #1 Ross Ohlendorf

    #2 Paul Maholm/Brad Lincoln/Morton/McCutchen/Karstens

    #3 Trade

    #4 James McDonald

    #5 Duke/Lincoln/Morton/McCutchen/Karstens

    If either of those listed is our starting rotation it will once again be a season of watching **** meaningless baseball and dreaming of what we will be like in 2012 hoping the arms start emerging from AA.

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