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    I don't think there will be much of a decision to make. WP is done, he's now fragile. He won't be able to string together a few games in a row. I would be shocked if he did. This is going to get interesting. We need Mendy to punish fools when we play the Vikings not WP dancing around in the backfield and then dropped for a loss.
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    I like Willie, but it is time for him to re-assume the role he had when Bettis was here. He is a straight ahead speed guy who has never had any cut or wiggle.

    Mendenhall has it all and is running with attitude. He is the future. He should be getting 25 carries per game and Willie 10-12.
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    I'm with ya. Mendenhall is more fo a complete back. Might not have Willie's speed but his vision is better, patience is better, can receive, hits holes harder and faster, has mroe power. Needs to learn to lower the shoulders when going into traffic areas but other than that, Mendenhall has ran as good as anyone could really want. Willie is a nice back to have in the meantime but ultimately won't be ere and Moore is a better 3rd down back option because of his receiving skills
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    I don't understand the "**** FWP" crowd. He IMO is still always a threat to take it to the house when he gets a hole and is one of the best around when bouncing it to the outside. That said, I think Mendenhall is starting to look like a better all around back. Moore also has his niche in our O.

    I'm looking forward to a RB by committee because I think they all have something to contribute.

    I also think it's completely irrelevant who is named the starter. They could name FWP the starter but give Mendy 75% of the carries. However, if everyone is discussing who should get more carries than I say give FWP a chance. If he continues to struggle then give Mendy a chance. Whoever seems to be running better/harder that day = who should get the most carries.

    I don't think FWP is done, although I'll admit he hasn't exactly been tearing it up so far this year.

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    I'm with ya. Mendenhall is more fo a complete back. Might not have Willie's speed but his vision is better, patience is better, can receive, hits holes harder and faster, has mroe power. Needs to learn to lower the shoulders when going into traffic areas but other than that, Mendenhall has ran as good as anyone could really want. Willie is a nice back to have in the meantime but ultimately won't be ere and Moore is a better 3rd down back option because of his receiving skills
    Said that with a cockney accent.

    I think FWP's destiny after this year is a foregone conclusion, but you never know.

    I never understood the FWP haters either. These will be the same people *****ing about Mendy if and when he becomes the featured back, and they'll ***** about the next guy and so on.

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    Said that with a cockney accent.

    I think FWP's destiny after this year is a foregone conclusion, but you never know.

    I never understood the FWP haters either. These will be the same people *****ing about Mendy if and when he becomes the featured back, and they'll ***** about the next guy and so on.

    Just watch the games, that should be enough for you to understand why there are Willie haters.

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    I always hate to see someone lose their job because they got injured. I feel the same for Parker. However, in this case, there is no way that Mendenhall doesn't start and take a significant portion of the snaps. He has better vision, he runs harder, he runs with more conviction, he blocks better and he catches the ball better. What more do you want. Besides, I think the O-line feels they have better chance of blocking for him and has stepped up their game.

    It's been pointed out elsewhere that we are just talking SD and Detroit and the jury is out until we play some good teams, which is a fair comment. Mendy still has the better attributes as a running back, even against a good team.

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    Just watch the games, that should be enough for you to understand why there are Willie haters.
    Sure, Parker only gets 1k yards per season when he's healthy and scores TD's.

    No doubt haters will be on Mendy if he can accomplish what Parker has, and god forbid if Mendy gets injured.

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    Sure, Parker only gets 1k yards per season when he's healthy and scores TD's.

    No doubt haters will be on Mendy if he can accomplish what Parker has, and god forbid if Mendy gets injured.
    Sweet, it's not the overall total yards that has folks hatin'... I have to admit that I've become one of them, and I don't like it.

    ... Yea, it's been discussed to death, but IMHO he's not being used correctly in the schemes. Sure, he has the break-out runs to get the total yardage at the end of the day, but how many drives stall-out or need heroics from Ben to keep them alive?... He gets one carry for 20 or 30 yards, then has about 7 or 8 for a yard or two.... As said, I don't necessarily blame him for all of it because Arians hasn't been using him effectively. But is there an option to it?... In this league it's "what have you done for me lately?".... I can see both sides of this.
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    Sweet, it's not the overall total yards that has folks hatin'... I have to admit that I've become one of them, and I don't like it.

    ... Yea, it's been discussed to death, but IMHO he's not being used correctly in the schemes. Sure, he has the break-out runs to get the total yardage at the end of the day, but how many drives stall-out or need heroics from Ben to keep them alive?... He gets one carry for 20 or 30 yards, then has about 7 or 8 for a yard or two.... As said, I don't necessarily blame him for all of it because Arians hasn't been using him effectively. But is there an option to it?... In this league it's "what have you done for me lately?".... I can see both sides of this.
    Who's fault is it that he's not being used in the right schemes, and what's to stop Mendy from falling into the same trap?

    As bad as our line has played over the last couple years, Parker was a good a fit as you could have asked from a back. Mendy is going to need blocking and if the line, who has done well so far this year all things considered, suddenly stops opening holes for Mendy, I wonder how productive he will continue to be.

    I don't think Parker is the greatest thing since sliced bread, but he isn't a failure by any stretch.

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    Told a good buddy of mine over the phone during the Charger game that it's obvious that the Mendenhall era has begun, whether we like it or not. For this year, if the coaching staff is smart, it's Mendy for at least 70% of the carries, and FWP and Mewelde share the rest. RM has got to be the featured back from this day forth(Unless he is still messing up during practice and film room junk). It's so cut and dry that its not even funny...and no, I don't hate Willie, he helped us win a SB and for that, I love the guy but it's painfully clear that we gotta go with Mendy.

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    No... He's not a failure by any means... And yea, the fault lies with Arians if he's not used right, or even take it to the top with Tomlin for that matter.

    But to run him up the middle or at least between the tackles just doesn't cut it with him IMO... He hasn't rushed the same since Bettis left, so obviously it also deals with who he has working with him as well.

    .... But tell me: Haven't you grown tired of the 1 yard carries and the predictable calls with him close-in and dealing with traffic?... As I said, it's not all his fault at all, but the effect is still the same.

    .... Oh.... Yea... I agree about the O-line.
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    No... He's not a failure by any means... And yea, the fault lies with Arians if he's not used right, or even take it to the top with Tomlin for that matter.

    But to run him up the middle or at least between the tackles just doesn't cut it with him IMO... He hasn't rushed the same since Bettis left, so obviously it also deals with who he has working with him as well.

    .... But tell me: Haven't you grown tired of the 1 yard carries and the predictable calls with him close-in and dealing with traffic?... As I said, it's not all his fault at all, but the effect is still the same.

    .... Oh.... Yea... I agree about the O-line.
    Sure I have.

    But to pin that blame solely on Parker is silly, and I'm not suggesting you are. FWP haters to some degree are doing just that.

    Our line has played well as of recently, hopefully that continues. It's a shame that FWP wasn't given the opportunity to run behind a line that is starting to click, but still - he did a **** good job without having to rely on the line to pave the way for him.

    Mendy - he can fall into that same trap easily. If the line takes a step back, he's going to have to do it on his own. Parker did it, hopefully Mendy can if it comes to that.

    Both of them will suffer under Arians schemes.

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    Sweet, it's not the overall total yards that has folks hatin'... I have to admit that I've become one of them, and I don't like it.

    ... Yea, it's been discussed to death, but IMHO he's not being used correctly in the schemes. Sure, he has the break-out runs to get the total yardage at the end of the day, but how many drives stall-out or need heroics from Ben to keep them alive?... He gets one carry for 20 or 30 yards, then has about 7 or 8 for a yard or two.... As said, I don't necessarily blame him for all of it because Arians hasn't been using him effectively. But is there an option to it?... In this league it's "what have you done for me lately?".... I can see both sides of this.
    Spoken like a true (cough), (cough) hater. You nailed it here, NKY. Everyone who thinks Willie is worth a **** is still living in 2005 and 2006? Parker may have gotten some decent yards one or two seasons but he also got a ton of attempts too.

    More attempts = More Yards.

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    Sure I have.

    But to pin that blame solely on Parker is silly, and I'm not suggesting you are. FWP haters to some degree are doing just that.

    Our line has played well as of recently, hopefully that continues. It's a shame that FWP wasn't given the opportunity to run behind a line that is starting to click, but still - he did a **** good job without having to rely on the line to pave the way for him.

    Mendy - he can fall into that same trap easily. If the line takes a step back, he's going to have to do it on his own. Parker did it, hopefully Mendy can if it comes to that.

    Both of them will suffer under Arians schemes.
    Do you see the common denominator here? Mendy?
    Mendy starts the last two games and the line looks good and is starting to click. FWP starts and the line looks lost and can't get out of their own way.

    Hmmmmmmmmmm!

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