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    The Steelers Are Slowly Becoming Mike Tomlin’s Team

    Posted on October 6, 2010 by adam


    At some point over the past four seasons, perhaps after Super Bowl XLIII, you’ve heard somebody, somewhere, say of Mike Tomlin … “Well, he’s only winning because he has Bill Cowher’s players.”

    Or something along those lines.

    It’s the same thing Jon Gruden went through in Tampa Bay after he took “Tony Dungy’s team” to a level Dungy never approached — the Super Bowl. To this day that Buccaneers team (which included Tomlin on its coaching staff, by the way) is still referred to as “Tony Dungy’s team.” I’ve always hated this logic. For one, it’s not exactly easy to take over a locker room full of established NFL veterans and the ego’s they carry and win them over with a new way of doing things, and then getting them to go out and win a Super Bowl. Especially when the new coach was able to do it after the previous coach (in this case, Dungy) failed year after year.

    Tomlin, of course, endured a similar thing in Pittsburgh because he was taking over a team with a cupboard full of talent, and following in the footsteps of a future Hall of Fame head coach that had won a Super Bowl just two years earlier. But it’s important to keep in mind that the team Tomlin took over for wasn’t a Super Bowl champion, but a team that went 8-8 and missed the playoffs.

    Of course, Cowher’s presence is still felt on this team in a huge way with guys like Ben Roethlisberger, Troy Polamalu, Hines Ward, Heath Miller, Aaron Smith, Casey Hampton, Brett Kiesel and Max Starks still playing at an extremely high level. But sooner or later we’re going to have to stop looking at this team as the one Bill Cowher assembled, and start viewing it as a team that Mike Tomlin has had a hand in building. And slowly but surely we’re starting to reach that point.

    Let’s take a look at how “The Tomlin Drafts” have started to make an impact on this year’s team. In some cases it’s a huge impact, like Lawrence Timmons; in other cases, it could be one of the “little things” like David Johnson making a key block on a 50-yard touchdown run in overtime…

    per Steelers Lounge request, please click on their link below to read the rest of the article...

    http://www.steelerslounge.com/2010/1...eam/#more-2230

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    The Steelers Are Slowly Becoming Mike Tomlin’s Team

    Posted on October 6, 2010 by adam


    At some point over the past four seasons, perhaps after Super Bowl XLIII, you’ve heard somebody, somewhere, say of Mike Tomlin … “Well, he’s only winning because he has Bill Cowher’s players.”

    Or something along those lines.

    It’s the same thing Jon Gruden went through in Tampa Bay after he took “Tony Dungy’s team” to a level Dungy never approached — the Super Bowl. To this day that Buccaneers team (which included Tomlin on its coaching staff, by the way) is still referred to as “Tony Dungy’s team.” I’ve always hated this logic. For one, it’s not exactly easy to take over a locker room full of established NFL veterans and the ego’s they carry and win them over with a new way of doing things, and then getting them to go out and win a Super Bowl. Especially when the new coach was able to do it after the previous coach (in this case, Dungy) failed year after year.

    Tomlin, of course, endured a similar thing in Pittsburgh because he was taking over a team with a cupboard full of talent, and following in the footsteps of a future Hall of Fame head coach that had won a Super Bowl just two years earlier. But it’s important to keep in mind that the team Tomlin took over for wasn’t a Super Bowl champion, but a team that went 8-8 and missed the playoffs.

    Of course, Cowher’s presence is still felt on this team in a huge way with guys like Ben Roethlisberger, Troy Polamalu, Hines Ward, Heath Miller, Aaron Smith, Casey Hampton, Brett Kiesel and Max Starks still playing at an extremely high level. But sooner or later we’re going to have to stop looking at this team as the one Bill Cowher assembled, and start viewing it as a team that Mike Tomlin has had a hand in building. And slowly but surely we’re starting to reach that point.

    Let’s take a look at how “The Tomlin Drafts” have started to make an impact on this year’s team. In some cases it’s a huge impact, like Lawrence Timmons; in other cases, it could be one of the “little things” like David Johnson making a key block on a 50-yard touchdown run in overtime…

    per Steelers Lounge request, please click on their link below to read the rest of the article...

    http://www.steelerslounge.com/2010/1...eam/#more-2230
    I see this post getting ugly so I will keep my comments to myself.

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    I see this post getting ugly so I will keep my comments to myself.




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    Although,it is just a matter of time for the board's other Tomlin hater to rear his ugly head.

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    Although,it is just a matter of time for the board's other Tomlin hater to rear his ugly head.
    Give it a rest! Unless of course antagonism is your goal, then carry on.

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    How could an innocent thread like this ever spark a debate????
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    The Steelers Are Slowly Becoming Mike Tomlin’s Team

    Posted on October 6, 2010 by adam


    At some point over the past four seasons, perhaps after Super Bowl XLIII, you’ve heard somebody, somewhere, say of Mike Tomlin … “Well, he’s only winning because he has Bill Cowher’s players.”

    Or something along those lines.

    It’s the same thing Jon Gruden went through in Tampa Bay after he took “Tony Dungy’s team” to a level Dungy never approached — the Super Bowl. To this day that Buccaneers team (which included Tomlin on its coaching staff, by the way) is still referred to as “Tony Dungy’s team.” I’ve always hated this logic. For one, it’s not exactly easy to take over a locker room full of established NFL veterans and the ego’s they carry and win them over with a new way of doing things, and then getting them to go out and win a Super Bowl. Especially when the new coach was able to do it after the previous coach (in this case, Dungy) failed year after year.

    Tomlin, of course, endured a similar thing in Pittsburgh because he was taking over a team with a cupboard full of talent, and following in the footsteps of a future Hall of Fame head coach that had won a Super Bowl just two years earlier. But it’s important to keep in mind that the team Tomlin took over for wasn’t a Super Bowl champion, but a team that went 8-8 and missed the playoffs.

    Of course, Cowher’s presence is still felt on this team in a huge way with guys like Ben Roethlisberger, Troy Polamalu, Hines Ward, Heath Miller, Aaron Smith, Casey Hampton, Brett Kiesel and Max Starks still playing at an extremely high level. But sooner or later we’re going to have to stop looking at this team as the one Bill Cowher assembled, and start viewing it as a team that Mike Tomlin has had a hand in building. And slowly but surely we’re starting to reach that point.

    Let’s take a look at how “The Tomlin Drafts” have started to make an impact on this year’s team. In some cases it’s a huge impact, like Lawrence Timmons; in other cases, it could be one of the “little things” like David Johnson making a key block on a 50-yard touchdown run in overtime…

    per Steelers Lounge request, please click on their link below to read the rest of the article...

    http://www.steelerslounge.com/2010/1...eam/#more-2230
    I'm not sure I agree with the logic behind this although I do agree with the premise that this is becoming more Tomlin's team. As for Gruden, it's impossible to come up with any good reason to suggest that he didn't win with Dungy';s team or didn't win with a massive advantage knowing Oakland's personnel. It's impossible because Gruden walked in and took over a Dungy team that made it to ther playoffs the year before...

    Looking at the Steelers roster right now, it's got a bunch of either Tomlin guys drafted/signed or guys that got their chance to start under Tomlin..

    Mendenhall
    Moore
    Redman
    Wallace
    Randel El (Tomlin's decision to bring him back)
    Sepevulda
    Kemoeatu
    Pouncey
    Legursky/Essex (anyone that plays RG )
    Adams/Colon

    Hood
    Woodley
    Timmons
    Harrison (wasn't a starter until tomlin came)
    McFadden
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    I'm not sure I agree with the logic behind this although I do agree with the premise that this is becoming more Tomlin's team. As for Gruden, it's impossible to come up with any good reason to suggest that he didn't win with Dungy';s team or didn't win with a massive advantage knowing Oakland's personnel. It's impossible because Gruden walked in and took over a Dungy team that made it to ther playoffs the year before...

    Looking at the Steelers roster right now, it's got a bunch of either Tomlin guys drafted/signed or guys that got their chance to start under Tomlin..

    [HIGH-LIGHT]Mendenhall
    Moore
    Redman
    Wallace
    Randel El (Tomlin's decision to bring him back)
    Sepevulda
    Kemoeatu
    Pouncey
    Legursky/Essex (anyone that plays RG )
    Adams/Colon

    Hood
    Woodley
    Timmons
    Harrison (wasn't a starter until tomlin came)
    McFadden[/HIGH-LIGHT]
    Impressive list!

    Arians cancels it all out

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    **** Cowher...slobbering waste of oxygen.

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    **** Cowher...slobbering waste of oxygen.
    yeah, he sucked!

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    I will support any coach who can bring in talent that can keep us as a legit Super Bowl contender. People can say what they want, but the Steelers won a Super Bowl with Tomlin at the helm and helped get us to 3-1 without Ben. He is doing something right.
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    Tomlin is never immune from criticism as far as I'm concerned, but I'll continue to support him as he progressively keeps the team moving in the right direction.

    ****canning Arians would go a long way IMO.

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    I wholeheartedly agree with ****canning brucey.
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    I would venture to guess that if we win another Super Bowl this year, Arians, as a two time super bowl winning offensive coordinator would still not be offered any head coaching positions.

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    yeah, he sucked!

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