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    Should the Steelers have taken a safety late?

    October 4th, 2010 Matt Loede Posted in Opinions
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    Sundayís nip and tuck affair against the Ravens today is going though its usual round of second guessing, and one interesting question that I have heard from a couple of talking heads would have been to give the Ravens two points late in the game.

    With the Steelers ahead 14-10 with a minute left, they were forced to punt from their own end zone after they failed to do much of anything on three straight runs. Daniel Sepulvedaís punt would have put the ball at midfield for the Ravens, but a penalty on Keyaron Fox put the ball at the 40.

    So hindsight being what it is, letís pretend the Steelers take a safety there instead of punting from their end zone. It puts the score at 14-12, but then Sepulveda has the luxury of the free kick from his own 20 instead of the back of their end zone. He was averaging just under 50 yards a kick, so letís say from the 20 he gets a 50-yard kick, that puts the Ravens at their own 30 (taking out the possible return), instead of Baltimore needing a TD from the Steelers 40, where they started.

    Now at this point, from their own 30, Baltimore would have needed about 40 or 45 yards to give kicker Billy Cundiff a shot at at 42 to 47-yard field goal to try and win the game 15-14.

    Personally, I think the Steelers did the right thing. Their defense should have been able to hold down Flacco and the Ravens for the last minute, but instead, they looked like Swiss cheese on four pass plays that allowed the Ravens to get the winning score.

    It is what it is, but itís just another look at something the team might have considered late to try and salvage a win to get to 4-0.

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    I think they did the right thing strategically. Taking a safety would be a huge gamble.

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    I think they did the right thing strategically. Taking a safety would be a huge gamble.


    taking a safety and making the score 14-12 would have been stupid.

    hope that helps...

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    That's the thing about strategy.

    If it works, you get a ticket parade. If it doesn't, you're second-guessing it for weeks.

    Being a good decision maker involves a lot of ****. A lot. Second guessing or hesitating is often worse than making a bad decision.

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    Default Re: Should the Steelers have taken a safety late?

    do you want the other team to have to score a TD or a FG to beat you?

    easy answer, we did the right thing. problem was our defense looked like last year's version...

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    do you want the other team to have to score a TD or a FG to beat you?

    easy answer, we did the right thing. problem was our defense looked like last year's version...
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    Default Re: Should the Steelers have taken a safety late?

    I say no way, you never give a team a chance to beat you with a field goal when they need a TD. I know the punt would have been from the 20 as compared to the -8 (Back of the endzone). (Being generous on both here) Even if Sepulveda gets off a 50 yard punt and its returned 8 yards they begin at the 38. Making a 40 yard field goal (ball at the 23) only 39 yards away. Less than they had to drive for the winning TD (Minus the holding call....What a crap call)
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    The only reason the Steelers would even consider taking a safety there would be because of how horrible both kickers were doing at that end of the stadium in the rainy weather conditons. I think they both were a combined 0 for 3 at that crazy open end. That being said, the Steelers absolutely made the right decision. If you're supposed to have one of the league's top defenses, you should be able to keep the other team out of the endzone with the game on the line. Unfortunately, they became the 2009 defense on that final drive. Hopefully, not a sign of things to come!

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    Default Re: Should the Steelers have taken a safety late?

    Does it ****ing matter? We either give up 40 yards for a touchdown to lose 17-14 or 40 yards for an easy field goal and we lose 15-14.

    Either way we needed to defend 40 yards and we couldn't do it. End of story.

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    The only reason the Steelers would even consider taking a safety there would be because of how horrible both kickers were doing at that end of the stadium in the rainy weather conditons. I think they both were a combined 0 for 3 at that crazy open end. That being said, the Steelers absolutely made the right decision. If you're supposed to have one of the league's top defenses, you should be able to keep the other team out of the endzone with the game on the line. Unfortunately, they became the 2009 defense on that final drive. Hopefully, not a sign of things to come!

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    Does it ****ing matter? We either give up 40 yards for a touchdown to lose 17-14 or 40 yards for an easy field goal and we lose 15-14.

    Either way we needed to defend 40 yards and we couldn't do it. End of story.
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    Yeah it doesn't matter at all, I beleive the notion wad squashed in post game discussions anyway. But this is t even about the defense. They needed to refrain from taking penalties at the worst possible moment and make 10 ****ing yards for a first down. The. Again there are quite a few points in the game where we could have won the game. They didn't do it. On to the browns.

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    Yeah it doesn't matter at all, I beleive the notion wad squashed in post game discussions anyway. But this is t even about the defense. They needed to refrain from taking penalties at the worst possible moment and make 10 ****ing yards for a first down. The. Again there are quite a few points in the game where we could have won the game. They didn't do it. On to the browns.
    One of the dumber plays was a steelers CB lining up offside which squashed a 3rd down stoppage as I recall. It was in the 2nd half

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    Does it ****ing matter? We either give up 40 yards for a touchdown to lose 17-14 or 40 yards for an easy field goal and we lose 15-14.

    Either way we needed to defend 40 yards and we couldn't do it. End of story.
    I gotta disagree bro! While the 40 yards is the same and the result ends up being the same, the logic is purely foolish. TD's are just a bit harder to achieve in the NFL than FG's..........that's why teams kick FG's instead of going for it on 4th down

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    TD's are just a bit harder to achieve in the NFL than FG's
    Apparently not last week.

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