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    Oh yeah!!! Innnnn!!! Still like the throwbacks, don't like the pants tho.

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    Default Re: Game 5 : Steelers vs. Browns : 10.17.10

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    After four weeks of uncertainty filling out their depth chart at quarterback, the Pittsburgh Steelers have no qualms about discussing who they'll have under center this week.

    The Cleveland Browns wish they could say the same.

    Ben Roethlisberger returns from his four-game suspension Sunday at Heinz Field, rejoining a Steelers team held together in his absence by its defense -- which could get plenty of chances to make plays as the Browns are likely to give rookie Colt McCoy his first start.

    Pittsburgh (3-1) got used to Roethlisberger's off-the-field activities dominating offseason headlines after his 2006 motorcycle accident and a 2009 civil suit that alleged he sexually assaulted a Las Vegas casino employee.

    Less than 10 months after that allegation, a college student in Milledgeville, Ga., accused Roethlisberger of sexually assaulting her at a nightclub in March. Though charges were never filed, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell slapped the two-time Super Bowl winner with a four-game suspension for violating the league's personal conduct policy.

    Roethlisberger officially rejoined the team Oct. 4, the day after the team's bye week began.

    "What had to be said was said a long time ago," receiver Mike Wallace said. "He was sorry when it first happened, so we didn't need to go over it again or have him apologize. He doesn't have to do that. We know that he's sorry, and we know he's ready to play football."

    The Steelers certainly showed up ready to play during Roethlisberger's suspension, overcoming a passing game that's last in the league at 136.0 yards per game behind Dennis Dixon and Charlie Batch. Pittsburgh, though, leads the league in scoring defense at 12.5 points per game even after a 17-14 loss to Baltimore on Oct. 3.

    The Steelers are also forcing three turnovers a game, a far cry from a defense that totaled three takeaways during a five-game losing streak last season.

    The final contest in that skid came against the Browns (1-4). Roethlisberger had won all 10 meetings versus the Steelers' AFC North rivals, but a 13-6 loss in Cleveland on Dec. 10 all but erased any chance Pittsburgh would have of defending its Super Bowl title.

    "They really got after us. We never want to make excuses, but we really just didn't play good football," Roethlisberger said. "... Point blank, we just couldn't do anything on offense."

    The Steelers defense is expecting Cleveland to be uttering similar frustrations Sunday. With Jake Delhomme and Seneca Wallace nursing high ankle sprains suffered against Atlanta on Sunday, the Browns left the 20-10 loss with McCoy as their only healthy quarterback.

    Cleveland signed veteran Brett Ratliff, who has spent time in coach Eric Mangini's system before, but all indications are that McCoy will start with Delhomme and Wallace unlikely to practice this week.

    "Everybody's got to get their feet wet at some point. ... It's only the Steelers, right? Coming off a bye week? They don't blitz much," Mangini joked.

    The last game McCoy started was Texas' 2010 BCS championship game loss to Alabama, when he left in the first quarter with a shoulder injury.

    He's plenty familiar with the Steelers' schemes, though.

    "I've watched them play for a long time," McCoy said. "They've won Super Bowls. They've got tremendous players -- (James) Harrison, Polamalu, (LaMarr) Woodley. They're all good. Casey Hampton went to UT so I know him. I have all the respect in the world for those guys. We know what challenge we have ahead of us."

    For their part, the Steelers don't want to take McCoy lightly.

    He's got a tremendous opportunity to start off with a great story," Polamalu said. "We have all been in this situation where we've been underdogs or been favored and it doesn't turn out the way everyone thinks it will. With all the lessons we learned in the past, we could have our hands full."

    The Browns' upset of Pittsburgh in December included a heavy dose of a wildcat offense with Joshua Cribbs under center, a strategy Steelers coach Mike Tomlin wouldn't be surprised to see used again.

    "That's usually the nature of the league and that's what makes it so awesome," Tomlin said. "When you show areas of deficiency, usually you are going to continue to see those challenges until you fix it. We didn't fix it in that football game."

    Gaining any yards on the ground against Pittsburgh won't be easy. The Steelers boast the NFL's No. 1 rush defense (62.3 ypg), and they've held Michael Turner, Chris Johnson and Ray Rice to a combined 2.2 yards per carry.

    Peyton Hillis doesn't have a career resume that measures up to those players, but he ran for 246 yards in games against Baltimore and Cincinnati in Week 3 and 4. Hillis, however, managed 28 yards versus the Falcons after injuring a quad in practice leading up to the game.

    Cleveland doesn't have much experience behind him, either. The Browns dealt backup Jerome Harrison to Philadelphia for fellow running back Mike Bell on Wednesday.

    Pittsburgh has won its last six home games in the series by an average of 15.2 points.

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    Default Re: Game 5 : Steelers vs. Browns : 10.17.10

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    After four weeks of uncertainty filling out their depth chart at quarterback, the Pittsburgh Steelers have no qualms about discussing who they'll have under center this week.

    The Cleveland Browns wish they could say the same.

    Ben Roethlisberger returns from his four-game suspension Sunday at Heinz Field, rejoining a Steelers team held together in his absence by its defense -- which could get plenty of chances to make plays as the Browns are likely to give rookie Colt McCoy his first start.

    Pittsburgh (3-1) got used to Roethlisberger's off-the-field activities dominating offseason headlines after his 2006 motorcycle accident and a 2009 civil suit that alleged he sexually assaulted a Las Vegas casino employee.

    Less than 10 months after that allegation, a college student in Milledgeville, Ga., accused Roethlisberger of sexually assaulting her at a nightclub in March. Though charges were never filed, NFL commissioner Roger Goodell slapped the two-time Super Bowl winner with a four-game suspension for violating the league's personal conduct policy.

    Roethlisberger officially rejoined the team Oct. 4, the day after the team's bye week began.

    "What had to be said was said a long time ago," receiver Mike Wallace said. "He was sorry when it first happened, so we didn't need to go over it again or have him apologize. He doesn't have to do that. We know that he's sorry, and we know he's ready to play football."

    The Steelers certainly showed up ready to play during Roethlisberger's suspension, overcoming a passing game that's last in the league at 136.0 yards per game behind Dennis Dixon and Charlie Batch. Pittsburgh, though, leads the league in scoring defense at 12.5 points per game even after a 17-14 loss to Baltimore on Oct. 3.

    The Steelers are also forcing three turnovers a game, a far cry from a defense that totaled three takeaways during a five-game losing streak last season.

    The final contest in that skid came against the Browns (1-4). Roethlisberger had won all 10 meetings versus the Steelers' AFC North rivals, but a 13-6 loss in Cleveland on Dec. 10 all but erased any chance Pittsburgh would have of defending its Super Bowl title.

    "They really got after us. We never want to make excuses, but we really just didn't play good football," Roethlisberger said. "... Point blank, we just couldn't do anything on offense."

    The Steelers defense is expecting Cleveland to be uttering similar frustrations Sunday. With Jake Delhomme and Seneca Wallace nursing high ankle sprains suffered against Atlanta on Sunday, the Browns left the 20-10 loss with McCoy as their only healthy quarterback.

    Cleveland signed veteran Brett Ratliff, who has spent time in coach Eric Mangini's system before, but all indications are that McCoy will start with Delhomme and Wallace unlikely to practice this week.

    "Everybody's got to get their feet wet at some point. ... It's only the Steelers, right? Coming off a bye week? They don't blitz much," Mangini joked.

    The last game McCoy started was Texas' 2010 BCS championship game loss to Alabama, when he left in the first quarter with a shoulder injury.

    He's plenty familiar with the Steelers' schemes, though.

    "I've watched them play for a long time," McCoy said. "They've won Super Bowls. They've got tremendous players -- (James) Harrison, Polamalu, (LaMarr) Woodley. They're all good. Casey Hampton went to UT so I know him. I have all the respect in the world for those guys. We know what challenge we have ahead of us."

    For their part, the Steelers don't want to take McCoy lightly.

    He's got a tremendous opportunity to start off with a great story," Polamalu said. "We have all been in this situation where we've been underdogs or been favored and it doesn't turn out the way everyone thinks it will. With all the lessons we learned in the past, we could have our hands full."

    The Browns' upset of Pittsburgh in December included a heavy dose of a wildcat offense with Joshua Cribbs under center, a strategy Steelers coach Mike Tomlin wouldn't be surprised to see used again.

    "That's usually the nature of the league and that's what makes it so awesome," Tomlin said. "When you show areas of deficiency, usually you are going to continue to see those challenges until you fix it. We didn't fix it in that football game."

    Gaining any yards on the ground against Pittsburgh won't be easy. The Steelers boast the NFL's No. 1 rush defense (62.3 ypg), and they've held Michael Turner, Chris Johnson and Ray Rice to a combined 2.2 yards per carry.

    Peyton Hillis doesn't have a career resume that measures up to those players, but he ran for 246 yards in games against Baltimore and Cincinnati in Week 3 and 4. Hillis, however, managed 28 yards versus the Falcons after injuring a quad in practice leading up to the game.

    Cleveland doesn't have much experience behind him, either. The Browns dealt backup Jerome Harrison to Philadelphia for fellow running back Mike Bell on Wednesday.

    Pittsburgh has won its last six home games in the series by an average of 15.2 points.

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    Default Re: Game 5 : Steelers vs. Browns : 10.17.10

    This Week's Line


    2010 Trends (Regular Season)
    The Browns are 2-2 ATS.
    The Browns are 1-0 ATS away.
    The Browns are 2-1 ATS as the underdog.
    The Browns are 1-0 ATS as an away underdog.
    The Steelers are 3-1 ATS.
    The Steelers are 1-1 ATS at home.
    The Steelers are 2-0 ATS as the underdog.
    The Steelers are 1-0 ATS as a home underdog.

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    Default Re: Game 5 : Steelers vs. Browns : 10.17.10

    Key matchups

    THOMAS vs. HARRISON

    It can be argued that the Browns’ best player is left tackle Joe Thomas. He’s the former Wisconsin star taken with the third overall pick of the 2007 NFL Draft. Not only has Thomas started every game since then, he’s not missed one offensive snap.

    Thomas has also played well enough to be selected to the Pro Bowl for three straight years. The last Browns offensive lineman to do so was Pro Football Hall of Fame guard Gene Hickerson in 1969-71.

    James Harrison, the Steelers’ right outside linebacker, has also played in the past three NFL all-star games. Including two sacks this year, he has 36.5 since the start of the ’07 season. But in five games against Thomas, Harrison hasn’t exactly excelled. He has just a half sack against him, that coming in the ’07 season opener when Thomas was making his first NFL start.
    Harrison always plays with a chip on his shoulder. But that chip figures to be a little bigger today.

    CRIBBS vs. COVERAGE TEAMS

    Even though Joshua Cribbs (below) is one of the NFL’s most explosive kick return men, the Steelers say they aren’t afraid of him.

    “We respect him, but we respect what we’re doing,” special teams coach Al Everest said of the Steelers’ kick coverage.

    So on kickoffs, the plan doesn’t call for Jeff Reed to squib his kicks or to hit them high and short so Cribbs can’t get to them.

    “We’re going to let it rip,” said linebacker Keyaron Fox, the Steelers’ special teams captain.
    We’ll see if the Steelers actually hold true to their word because Cribbs does rank fifth in NFL history with 10 touchdowns on kick returns. He’s first in NFL history with eight TDs on kickoff returns, including three against the Steelers. Cribbs has returned a kickoff for a TD in three of the last four years against the Steelers. In the 2007 Browns/Steelers game at Heinz Field, Cribbs was electrifying with a 92-yarder that set up a score and a 100-yard TD jaunt.

    WRIGHT vs. WALLACE

    On Oct. 5 when Ben Roethlisberger rejoined the Steelers after his serving a four-game suspension, he showed his flair for the dramatic. On his first pass in 11-on-11 drills at practice, he completed a bomb to speedy wide receiver Mike Wallace.

    Might that happen again today in Roethlisberger’s first game back?

    “That would be sweet,” Wallace said with a smile. “I’m all for it.”

    Considering that the Browns haven’t gotten strong play from their cornerbacks, it would make sense that Roethlisberger would want to test them. Already this year, the Browns DBs have been scorched for TD passes of 27, 33, 45, and 78 yards. In fact, all eight TDs scored against the Browns’ defense have come on pass plays.

    For much of today's game, Wallace will be matched up against cornerback Eric Wright.

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    Default Re: Game 5 : Steelers vs. Browns : 10.17.10

    Five Questions

    1. Which Steeler figures to benefit most with Ben Roethlisberger back in the lineup?

    - Well, it could be running back Rashard Mendenhall, who ranks third in the NFL with 102.8 rushing yards per game. With Roethlisberger returning today after serving a four-game suspension, opposing defenses won’t be able to focus so much attention on Mendenhall. But probably the Steeler who’s happiest about Roethlisberger’s return is wide receiver Hines Ward. In four games with Dennis Dixon and Charlie Batch at quarterback, Ward only has 12 catches. That’s his worst start since the 1999 season when he had nine receptions after four games. Last year after four games, Ward had 26 catches.

    2. In two games last year against the Steelers, how many times did the Browns sack Ben Roethlisberger?

    - Roethlisberger was sacked a career-high 50 times last year, and 11 of those sacks came against the Browns. On Dec. 10 in Cleveland, eight sacks of Roethlisberger played a huge part in the Browns pulling off a stunning 13-6 upset.

    3. How has the Browns’ pass rush fared so far this season, and who leads them in sacks?

    - The Browns are tied for 13th in the NFL with 10 sacks. Their sacker leader is backup linebacker Marcus Benard with 3.5. Denard is a second-year pro who made the Browns’ roster last year as an undrafted rookie out of Jackson State. Benard has played in only 10 NFL games in his career, but he already has seven sacks. By comparison, the Steelers are tied for ninth in the league with 11 sacks.

    4. Who will be the Steelers’ backup quarterback today?

    - That’s still a great mystery. Neither coach Mike Tomlin nor offensive coordinator Bruce Arians would say if the No. 2 man will be Charlie Batch or Byron Leftwich. Since Batch played in three of the four games and started two games, it would make sense that he would play if Roethlisberger would have to leave the game for any reason. On the Steelers depth chart, Batch and Leftwich are both listed as backups.

    5. How many former Browns have their numbers retired?

    -There are five numbers that no Brown will ever wear again. Three of them were worn by future Hall of Famers: 14, quarterback Otto Graham; 32, running back Jim Brown; and 76, tackle/kicker Lou “The Toe” Groza. Two other Browns had their numbers retired after they died early in their careers. Running back Ernie Davis, the 1961 Heisman Trophy winner, was the Browns’ first-round pick in 1961. But before he ever played a game as a pro, Davis died of leukemia. So the Browns retired No. 45, the number Davis would have worn. The No. 46 worn by safety Don Fleming was also retired. During the 1963 off-season when he worked as a construction worker, Fleming died when he was electrocuted.

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    Man, I don't know whether it was due to the bye week, but time just seems to be DRAGGING before the start of this game....

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    Default Re: Game 5 : Steelers vs. Browns : 10.17.10

    Inactives:

    QB Charlie Batch
    CB Keenan Lewis
    RB Jonathan Dwyer
    CB Crezdon Butler
    OL Trai Essex
    OL Tony Hills
    WR Antonio Brown
    LB Thaddeus Gibson

    I guess Batch is the only one that's anything resembling a surprise. Leftwich is the #2, Batch is the emergency guy.
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    I really don't have any heartburn with going with just 2 qbs today... But with Batch being listed as "inactive", he's not even the emergency guy, is he?... He can't be used... So wouldn't that make ARE the "emergency" guy?...

    ... Boy, the field sure looks to be in great shape today... We better enjoy that while we can...

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    Wow.... I can watch the game on TV today! First time this year! Thanks CBS!!!

    Living in "so-called" Browns country is a horrible thing! ...except for two weekends a season!

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    Wow.... I can watch the game on TV today! First time this year! Thanks CBS!!!

    Living in "so-called" Browns country is a horrible thing! ...except for two weekends a season!
    Every once in a while there's a positive to living near that hell hole

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    I am an unfortunate 1-4 in all 3 Fantasy Football Leagues I'm in...

    Today I win for the 2nd time in every one of them to me ... to my opponents

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    Shannon Sharpe doesn't even think Colt will make it out of this game... and Shannon sharpe rarely thinks

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