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    The Pirates today named Hill's replacement. It's their minor league infield coordinator/former Bucco 2Bman Carlos Garcia.

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    The Pirates today named Hill's replacement. It's their minor league infield coordinator/former Bucco 2Bman Carlos Garcia.
    That's interesting I didn't know he replaced Jeff Cox!!!!!!!!

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    The Pirates have named Carlos Garcia as the team's first base coach and infield instructor, [HIGH-LIGHT]replacing Jeff Cox [/HIGH-LIGHT]who decided not to return for a second season.

    Garcia, 42, spent parts of seven seasons as a player with the Pirates, and represented the team in the 1994 All-Star Game.

    For the past two seasons, Garcia was the Pirates' minor-league infield coordinator. From 1995-97, he was the Seattle Mariners' third base coach.






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    Promotion from within. I have no idea if Garcia is any good as a coach. He wasn't a bad fielder at all. He's young and sometimes that helps with players... i dunno. Should be interesting to see. He has MLB coaching experience from his stint with Seattle over a decade ago

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    Remember when Garcia was the Pirates All Star representative? 1994 wasn't a great year. At least most of the other years there was at least an interesting individual performance.

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    Saw this today... in 2005 under Garcia, the Mariners lead the league in fielding percentage.

    I mean, at least that's no errors. not sure if he had the guys playing safe and a stat like UZR to judge range was low... would have to look it up, but that's a positive

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    just looked. going by a UZR stat, 2B and SS were way in the negative, 3B was barely in the negative and 1B was a positive for the mariners in 2005. Good fielding percentages though

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    Ah yes. Carlos Garcia our hope for the future. Garcia, Al Martin, and Kevin Young were to be the foundation of the new Pirates in the post Bonds era. Hope springs eternal...

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    Ah yes. Carlos Garcia our hope for the future. Garcia, Al Martin, and Kevin Young were to be the foundation of the new Pirates in the post Bonds era. Hope springs eternal...


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    Ah yes. Carlos Garcia our hope for the future. Garcia, Al Martin, and Kevin Young were to be the foundation of the new Pirates in the post Bonds era. Hope springs eternal...
    Carlos Garcia was actually pretty decent. I might have to say that he was an upgrade at 2B over Jose Lind at least hitting. Lind may have had a slightly better FP but Lind couldn't hit. That entire 1992 infield for the Pirates couldn't hit and they still made the playoffs. Not a single one of King, Merced, Bell, Lind or Buschelle that year hit .270 or better and we sit here and *****

    Kevin Young and al Martin were average at best but they were unfortunate to be on a teams with some horrible pitching. Now, you go to the 1992 Pirates team or 1991 Pirates team, you had Bonds, Bonila and Van Slyke, little else in the hitting department but a really strong pitching staff

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    Guys,please try to refrain from using the name "Kevin Young" on this board.I just ate and don't feel like puking it up.Thanks.

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    November 14, 1996: Traded by the Pittsburgh Pirates with Orlando Merced and Dan Plesac to the Toronto Blue Jays for Brandon Cromer (minors), Jose Pett (minors) and Jose Silva. The Toronto Blue Jays sent Mike Halperin (minors) (December 11, 1996), Abraham Nunez (December 11, 1996) and Craig Wilson (December 11, 1996) to the Pittsburgh Pirates to complete the trade.

    Man, that trade was supposed to actually be good. Cromer was a former first round pick, Jose Silva was once ranked the #10 prospect in the entire league, Jose Pett was an MLB top 100 guy, Abe Nunez was an MLB top 100 guy, Craig Wilson was pretty good as a Pirate, but mostly underutilized.

    The Denny Neagle trade looked great too. Ron Wright was a top 50 guy with huge power and Jason Schmidt was one of the league's best pitching prospects, but of course sucked as a Pirate then got traded and became one of the league's best pitchers.

    It really looked like the Pirates were heading in the right direction there for a minute. They had just drafted Benson first overall, too, and he instantly became a top 10 prospect in the league. You have to be incredibly unlucky or just incompetent to have that many guys fail to even come close to living up to their potential. Most teams would have killed for that group at the time.
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    Craig Wilson hit 29 Home Runs and then for some reason never got playing time again.

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    Craig Wilson hit 29 Home Runs and then for some reason never got playing time again.
    Yeah I always thought it was strange that they kept Craig Wilson on such a short leash. Granted that 29 homer season was more of a fluke season but it's not like we had anything better until we traded for Nady and then Laroche or whatever order it was

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    November 14, 1996: Traded by the Pittsburgh Pirates with Orlando Merced and Dan Plesac to the Toronto Blue Jays for Brandon Cromer (minors), Jose Pett (minors) and Jose Silva. The Toronto Blue Jays sent Mike Halperin (minors) (December 11, 1996), Abraham Nunez (December 11, 1996) and Craig Wilson (December 11, 1996) to the Pittsburgh Pirates to complete the trade.

    Man, that trade was supposed to actually be good. Cromer was a former first round pick, Jose Silva was once ranked the #10 prospect in the entire league, Jose Pett was an MLB top 100 guy, Abe Nunez was an MLB top 100 guy, Craig Wilson was pretty good as a Pirate, but mostly underutilized.

    The Denny Neagle trade looked great too. Ron Wright was a top 50 guy with huge power and Jason Schmidt was one of the league's best pitching prospects, but of course sucked as a Pirate then got traded and became one of the league's best pitchers.

    It really looked like the Pirates were heading in the right direction there for a minute. They had just drafted Benson first overall, too, and he instantly became a top 10 prospect in the league. You have to be incredibly unlucky or just incompetent to have that many guys fail to even come close to living up to their potential. Most teams would have killed for that group at the time.
    There's been a bit of both. Incompetenence and bad luck. We've definitely had out bad share of bad luck. I mean you could look at our first round pitchers. All of them weren't horrible. while a number weren't great they still had solid MLB potential but they all managed to get injured. Both incompetence due to poor development and some bad luck as well.

    Dave Littlefield for the msot part was fairly incompetent than having bad luck, I think a lot of Bonifay's trades and pick ups sided a little mroe with bad luck. the good and right intention types for a good number, not all but no luck in the end

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