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    Default Buster Olney likes the Bucs moves this winter

    About halfway down in the article.

    http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/blog?...ter&id=5921630

    He also quotes that scout who said he'd take Rendon over Harper.

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    Default Re: Buster Olney likes the Bucs moves this winter

    Not an insider. Copy and paste what he said about the Pirates
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    Default Re: Buster Olney likes the Bucs moves this winter

    Someone posted it on only.

    I'm just assuming this is it, a copy and paste job:

    Buster Olney today



    • The Phillies will win the offseason prize for the big stealth move, ensuring that the rows of cameras will be in Clearwater, Fla., on the day that pitchers and catchers report for the first time in February. But the other Pennsylvania team has been busy this winter, taking strides.

    The Pirates signed Lyle Overbay, the latest in a series of moves for the team, and while none of Pittsburgh's moves would rank among the 10 most prominent decisions of the offseason, there is a purpose to each one of them. The Pirates' growing core of young talent will be propped up by some experienced players, and each of the Pittsburgh players brought in this winter have had some success in the past -- Scott Olsen, Kevin Correia, Matt Diaz, Overbay. The contracts doled out are not extravagant, but at the same time, the Pirates are not exactly bottom-feeding, since they targeted specific players and probably paid them slightly above market value in order to bring them to Pittsburgh.

    What is taking shape probably isn't going to be good enough to contend for the NL Central title, but it's respectable. The Pirates' projected lineup:

    CF -- Andrew McCutchen (.365 OBP, 56 extra-base hits)
    LF -- Jose Tabata (who hit .322 after the All-Star break)
    2B -- Neil Walker, who had a solid rookie season
    1B -- Overbay
    RF -- Matt Diaz/Garrett Jones
    3B -- Pedro Alvarez
    C -- Chris Snyder
    SS -- Ronny Cedeno (or others)

    The Pirates will have the No. 1 pick in next year's draft, and the player widely considered to be the best player is Rice third baseman Anthony Rendon, who scouts say has the talent to play in the majors within a year after the draft. "If he and [Bryce] Harper were in the same draft, I think I'd take Rendon because he plays in the infield," said one rival talent evaluator. "Their [offensive] skills are comparable."

    If the Pirates select Rendon, Alvarez could shift to first base -- a move that is inevitable, say rival talent evaluators -- and the Pirates could have a very strong core of players in play.

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    Default Re: Buster Olney likes the Bucs moves this winter

    The Phillies will win the offseason prize for the big stealth move, ensuring that the rows of cameras will be in Clearwater, Fla., on the day that pitchers and catchers report for the first time in February. But the other Pennsylvania team has been busy this winter, taking strides.

    Getty ImagesPittsburgh hasn't paid a lot, but they've paid small premiums to get guys they want, such as Diaz.

    The Pirates signed Lyle Overbay, the latest in a series of moves for the team, and while none of Pittsburgh's moves would rank among the 10 most prominent decisions of the offseason, there is a purpose to each one of them. The Pirates' growing core of young talent will be propped up by some experienced players, and each of the Pittsburgh players brought in this winter have had some success in the past -- Scott Olsen, Kevin Correia, Matt Diaz, Overbay. The contracts doled out are not extravagant, but at the same time, the Pirates are not exactly bottom-feeding, since they targeted specific players and probably paid them slightly above market value in order to bring them to Pittsburgh.

    What is taking shape probably isn't going to be good enough to contend for the NL Central title, but it's respectable. The Pirates' projected lineup:

    CF -- Andrew McCutchen (.365 OBP, 56 extra-base hits)
    LF -- Jose Tabata (who hit .322 after the All-Star break)
    2B -- Neil Walker, who had a solid rookie season
    1B -- Overbay
    RF -- Matt Diaz/Garrett Jones
    3B -- Pedro Alvarez
    C -- Chris Snyder
    SS -- Ronny Cedeno (or others)

    The Pirates will have the No. 1 pick in next year's draft, and the player widely considered to be the best player is Rice third baseman Anthony Rendon, who scouts say has the talent to play in the majors within a year after the draft. "If he and [Bryce] Harper were in the same draft, I think I'd take Rendon because he plays in the infield," said one rival talent evaluator. "Their [offensive] skills are comparable."

    If the Pirates select Rendon, Alvarez could shift to first base -- a move that is inevitable, say rival talent evaluators -- and the Pirates could have a very strong core of players in play.


    Here you go.....He makes some decent points too.

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    Default Re: Buster Olney likes the Bucs moves this winter

    Here it is:


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    • The Phillies will win the offseason prize for the big stealth move, ensuring that the rows of cameras will be in Clearwater, Fla., on the day that pitchers and catchers report for the first time in February. But the other Pennsylvania team has been busy this winter, taking strides.

    The Pirates signed Lyle Overbay, the latest in a series of moves for the team, and while none of Pittsburgh's moves would rank among the 10 most prominent decisions of the offseason, there is a purpose to each one of them. The Pirates' growing core of young talent will be propped up by some experienced players, and each of the Pittsburgh players brought in this winter have had some success in the past -- Scott Olsen, Kevin Correia, Matt Diaz, Overbay. The contracts doled out are not extravagant, but at the same time, the Pirates are not exactly bottom-feeding, since they targeted specific players and probably paid them slightly above market value in order to bring them to Pittsburgh.

    What is taking shape probably isn't going to be good enough to contend for the NL Central title, but it's respectable. The Pirates' projected lineup:

    CF -- Andrew McCutchen (.365 OBP, 56 extra-base hits)
    LF -- Jose Tabata (who hit .322 after the All-Star break)
    2B -- Neil Walker, who had a solid rookie season
    1B -- Overbay
    RF -- Matt Diaz/Garrett Jones
    3B -- Pedro Alvarez
    C -- Chris Snyder
    SS -- Ronny Cedeno (or others)

    The Pirates will have the No. 1 pick in next year's draft, and the player widely considered to be the best player is Rice third baseman Anthony Rendon, who scouts say has the talent to play in the majors within a year after the draft. "If he and [Bryce] Harper were in the same draft, I think I'd take Rendon because he plays in the infield," said one rival talent evaluator. "Their [offensive] skills are comparable."

    If the Pirates select Rendon, Alvarez could shift to first base -- a move that is inevitable, say rival talent evaluators -- and the Pirates could have a very strong core of players in play.

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    All together now.

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    Default Re: Buster Olney likes the Bucs moves this winter

    I would be shocked if Rendon could reach the show for the buccos in one season. If the Pirates feel this is possible, they better sign him early and get him in the minors rather than squabble over 500k.....especially if they are going to drop 5 million on the Lyle Overbay types.

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    Default Re: Buster Olney likes the Bucs moves this winter

    That was certainly harmonious

    Nice to see a little positive go in the Pirates direction.

    What is important though is Anthony Rendon. Let's make sure we have plenty of money cause Rendon is going to cost us Harper money which is going to be $9.9 million + and a major league contract but he could be up by 2013 using Pedro's track of 1 full season in the minors. That would solidify our corner IF positions and make it that much more easier to find a RF solution if one isn't had by 2013
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    The Pirates signed Lyle Overbay, the latest in a series of moves for the team, and while none of Pittsburgh's moves would rank among the 10 most prominent decisions of the offseason, there is a purpose to each one of them. The Pirates' growing core of young talent will be propped up by some experienced players, and each of the Pittsburgh players brought in this winter have had some success in the past -- Scott Olsen, Kevin Correia, Matt Diaz, Overbay. The contracts doled out are not extravagant, but at the same time, the Pirates are not exactly bottom-feeding, since they targeted specific players and probably paid them slightly above market value in order to bring them to Pittsburgh.
    Replace Overbay, Diaz, and Correia with Sanders, Santiago, Burnitz, Stynes, Stairs, Mondesi, Casey, Randa, Hinkse, Church and absolutely nothing has changed in 10 years. I'm pretty sure it hasn't worked in the past, so I'm confused to why Olney likes these moves.

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    Default Re: Buster Olney likes the Bucs moves this winter

    WTF?

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    Replace Overbay, Diaz, and Correia with Sanders, Santiago, Burnitz, Stynes, Stairs, Mondesi, Casey, Randa, Hinkse, Church and absolutely nothing has changed in 10 years. I'm pretty sure it hasn't worked in the past, so I'm confused to why Olney likes these moves.
    I'm sure Olney and others that have applauded what the Pirates are doing large scale can't POSSIBLY know as much as about baseball as you.

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    Let's make sure we have plenty of money cause Rendon
    Rendon has the potential to be the game changer the Pirates have been looking for. With him in the lineup and some pitching help the Pirates immediately become a formidable team.

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    Rendon has the potential to be the game changer the Pirates have been looking for. With him in the lineup and some pitching help the Pirates immediately become a formidable team.
    I am looking forward to seeing

    3B Rendon
    2B Walker
    1B Alvarez
    LF Tabata
    CF Cutch
    C Sanchez
    RF Marte

    the missing piece is SS

    Got to thinking, I wonder if we would of known that Allie would have been sitting there in the second, if we wouldn't have Manny Machado instead of Taillon. Or is acquiring a top notch pitcher that far ahead of a top notch SS?

    I guess if all those pieces are in place, we could trade some prospects for a SS.

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    Anybody know the status of Rendon's injury rehab? Was it his ankle or his knee??

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    Anybody know the status of Rendon's injury rehab? Was it his ankle or his knee??

    ankle injury ...he has been takimg BP for a while

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