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    "According to ESPNDeportes, the Pirates and reliever Jose Veras have agreed to a minor league contract with an invitation to spring training.
    Veras, 30, was 3-3 with a 3.75 ERA in 48 relief appearances for the Marlins last season. He had 54 strikeouts to 29 walks in those appearances...."

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    Charlie from BucsDugout sums it up well:

    "Veras is a little wild, but not so wild that he's unusuable, and he strikes out batters at a pretty ridiculous clip (he struck out 10.13 per nine with the Marlins last year, and 11.35 in Class AAA). He also throws very hard, with a fastball that averages about 95 MPH. I always liked him when he was with the Yankees and I thought he would have been taken a lot more seriously in a different organization. Signing with the Pirates would be a great move for him.."
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    Charlie from BucsDugout sums it up well:

    "Veras is a little wild, but not so wild that he's unusuable, and he strikes out batters at a pretty ridiculous clip (he struck out 10.13 per nine with the Marlins last year, and 11.35 in Class AAA). He also throws very hard, with a fastball that averages about 95 MPH. I always liked him when he was with the Yankees and I thought he would have been taken a lot more seriously in a different organization. Signing with the Pirates would be a great move for him.."
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    If I'm not mistaken, he pitched for the Pirates minor leagues in 2009 and never got a chance to come up despite pretty solid numbers.

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    If I'm not mistaken, he pitched for the Pirates minor leagues in 2009 and never got a chance to come up despite pretty solid numbers.
    Nevermind, that was Juan Mateo.

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    Fits Huntingtons mold. A high k/9 guy with above average speed on his fastball. I'm not near a pc to check out his stats right now nor do I wanna try on the phone but I assume his control stinks. Which would fit neals mold.

    I like it. Low risk high reward type
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    Fits Huntingtons mold. A high k/9 guy with above average speed on his fastball. I'm not near a pc to check out his stats right now nor do I wanna try on the phone but I assume his control stinks. Which would fit neals mold.

    I like it. Low risk high reward type

    I like this signing....he has a real chance of making the team and being a help.

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    I like this signing....he has a real chance of making the team and being a help.
    The more I've looked at it, the more I like this signing as well. All of his numbers have been trending positively except his BB/9 which has kind of stayed the same His ERA, K/9, WHIP have all been getting better, That BB/9 of his is on the ridiculous side. If his control can improve the guy is tough to hit off of. He's only been giving up on average 6.5 BB/9 the past 2 years with an average 9 K/9. I mean teams hit just .191 against him last year and .228 in 2009 and he's put up strong BABIP's as well...
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    Whats our BP situation looking like right now?

    Meek
    Hanrahan
    Resop
    McCutchen??
    Karstens??
    ???
    ???
    ???

    To fill the question mark voids there is..

    Ascanio
    Hart
    Moskos (who was mentioned in a recent article somewhere)
    Aguero, moreno and Watson perhaps??

    Just trying to get a feel for what the needs are for the BP. Last year 4 pieces were added via Free Agency (Dotel, Carrasco, Donnelly, Lopez) specifically for the MLB roster... We won't go after a Dotel type since that type isn't need and wouldn't come here for less than a set up man role.

    Left handed BP guy seems to be a need but I remember looking a while back and there isn't much of **** for left handed relief. Would need to find that tyype who has the lefty splits as a righty
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    Olsen will be in the pen in all likelihood. I don't think mcCutch will be.

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    Left handed BP guy seems to be a need but I remember looking a while back and there isn't much of **** for left handed relief. Would need to find that tyype who has the lefty splits as a righty
    Tony Watson, Dan Moskos, and Justin Thomas are in-house lefty options. I wouldn't be surprised to see Watson stick. Moskos was awful in AAA last year....

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    Tony Watson, Dan Moskos, and Justin Thomas are in-house lefty options. I wouldn't be surprised to see Watson stick. Moskos was awful in AAA last year....
    YEah he was. I think Moskos needs more AAA refining. He could find his way up at the big league level at some point next season if he does well in AAA but he definitely struggled after his promotion.
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    Tony Watson, Dan Moskos, and Justin Thomas are in-house lefty options. I wouldn't be surprised to see Watson stick. Moskos was awful in AAA last year....
    Watson was a absolute beast against LH'ers last year....wasn't too bad against righties either. I think he has found his life's work in the bullpen. He probably is the closest one to the big team.

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    Watson was a absolute beast against LH'ers last year....wasn't too bad against righties either. I think he has found his life's work in the bullpen. He probably is the closest one to the big team.
    Good internal options is what I like to hear and see. We have a lot of them for the BP it seems with the crucials already here (closer and set up)
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