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    Default Super Bowl XLV Aftermath : Three Turnovers Too Many

    William Gay and Bryant McFadden couldn't cover Jordy Nelson. Troy Polamalu made no positive impact for the Pittsburgh Steelers defense that needed impact plays ...

    At the end of the day, it was the 3 Steelers turnovers that did them in. It was the experienced team that came out and looked completely nervous. It was the 2-time Super Bowl winning Quarterback that threw 2 crucial Interceptions, one that was returned for a touchdown.

    Mistakes.

    Most Super Bowl's are between close competition. It's not often you find the 1994 San Francisco 49ers facing the San Diego Chargers or the 1985 Chicago Bears facing the New England Patriots. this was an evenly matched contest. The Steelers are used to these, we play them twice and sometimes 3 times a year against Baltimore. The team that makes the least mistakes and the team that doesn't make mistakes at crucial times are the ones that usually win. The 2010 Pittsburgh Steelers couldn't overcome themselves on the grandest stage.

    It's a disappointing loss. It is one that could sting for a long time as Super Bowl XXX did. It's one that Steelers fans will have to sit with for perhaps a full season of no football if the NFL's owners lockout the players.

    The Steelers lost by 6 points and the Interception for 6 was a 7 point play.

    That is the importance of turnovers. The importance of not producing turnovers. Aaron Rodgers threw 0 Interceptions and that was the difference.

    The positives through this is that this is a loss to pin on the players. Eliminate the "Pick-6" and this is a win for the Pittsburgh Steelers. If any of our Corner Backs could cover Jordy Nelson, we we don't give up 50 yard touchdown drives off of turnovers, we maybe force a Field goal or 2.

    Players were there to make plays and the Steelers players didn't make enough plays and didn't make them when it matters.

    It was a great season for the Steelers. Considering what this team went through in the Offseason. Going 3-1 without Ben Roethlisberger. Making it to the Super Bowl with an Offensive line that was constantly seeing members go down to injury. Going into the Super Bowl losing your starting Center in the AFC Championship game. This team overcame a great deal of adversity and were a "Pick-6" from winning it all.

    Disappointed and Proud is what Steeler Nation should be feeling right now.
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    Yep disappointed but proud sums it up..

    or this quote from Major League II:
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    Exciting game, even with the three turnovers and the 21 point gimmes, we had a chance to win with two minutes left and for that we owe this team a lot of praise.

    No shame in losing to the Packers, who made big plays when they needed to make them.
    Impressed with the sportsmanship and mutual respect both showed.

    I thought we outplayed them on both sides of the ball, turnovers notwithstanding; Legursky didn't hurt us and in fact played well, ditto Oline (although we need some major draft help, even if everyone comes back next year, healthy).

    we need to draft a place kicker, although Suisham's KOs were good except for one.

    We need some CBs, Olinemen, a

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    Exciting game, even with the three turnovers and the 21 point gimmes, we had a chance to win with two minutes left and for that we owe this team a lot of praise.

    No shame in losing to the Packers, who made big plays when they needed to make them.
    Impressed with the sportsmanship and mutual respect both showed.

    I thought we outplayed them on both sides of the ball, turnovers notwithstanding; Legursky didn't hurt us and in fact played well, ditto Oline (although we need some major draft help, even if everyone comes back next year, healthy).

    we need to draft a place kicker, although Suisham's KOs were good except for one.

    We need some CBs, Olinemen, a
    Enough can't be said about this Offensive Line, how it played and the job that Sean Kugler did.

    Ben was sacked 1 time in this game. We averaged 5.5 yards on the ground. We sacked Aaron Rodgers at least 2 times and we "hit" him twice as much as Ben was hit and the Packers had an Offensive Line playing with the same 4/5 starters all season long and their lone backup has been in since early in the season. Legursky came in and really did a great job. We lost Flozell for some plays in this game and Essex came in and performed well. Just an amazing job by this Line that was patchwork
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    Disappointed and Proud is what Steeler Nation should be feeling right now.
    Yep! Agreed.

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    Watching guys like Brown, Sanders and Pouncey have the rookie years they had almost assures the continued success of this team. To go to the Super Bowl after everything this team had to overcome is nothing short of amazing. The coaching staff and players had one of the great seasons in team history and at this moment I am as proud as I have ever been to be a Steelers Fan. Thank you to the Steelers and the Tavern for a great season.
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    The O-line was the lone bright spot on offense in this game. Played a hell of a game. The one bad gaffe was they were somewhat responsible for Ben's first INT.

    Ben was bad. Made a couple throws but overall my opinion of him may have gone down just a tad. Still obviously a great QB but I was really disappointed in his performance in this game.

    Lebeau did a decent job, the defense really tightened up midway through the game but allowing that 30 yard completion on 3rd and 10 was a killer.

    Tomlin and Arians did a bad job. Sorry, folks, but they did. Preparation, gameplan, etc.

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    The 2010 Pittsburgh Steelers couldn't overcome themselves on the grandest stage.
    Sums up the game. It seemed in the middle of the 3rd and 4th quarters that neither team wanted to win the biggest game of the year. The Packers (other than Rodgers) did everything they could to give the game back to the Steelers, yet the Steelers kept shooting themselves in the foot. Lots of ifs, ands, buts, coulda, shoulda, woulda (Mendenhalls fumble, the picks, Fox penalty, even the first series of the game punt that was muffed by GB and the Steelers didn't recover). I was still proud of them in that they were down 21-3 and still made a game of it. Summary: Cannot win when you turn the ball over and give up 21 points off of those turnovers.

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    Sums up the game. It seemed in the middle of the 3rd and 4th quarters that neither team wanted to win the biggest game of the year. The Packers (other than Rodgers) did everything they could to give the game back to the Steelers, yet the Steelers kept shooting themselves in the foot. Lots of ifs, ands, buts, coulda, shoulda, woulda (Mendenhalls fumble, the picks, Fox penalty, even the first series of the game punt that was muffed by GB and the Steelers didn't recover). I was still proud of them in that they were down 21-3 and still made a game of it. Summary: Cannot win when you turn the ball over and give up 21 points off of those turnovers.
    Exactly, but the thing is the Steelers have played like this for a good part of the year but have simply gotten away with it in spite of disappearing for stretches of games.

    Even with those turnovers the game was 17-21 and the offense repeatedly was given golden field position only to **** it away time and again. This SB loss falls squarely on the offense, Ben and the coaches, IMO.

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    Exactly, but the thing is the Steelers have played like this for a good part of the year but have simply gotten away with it in spite of disappearing for stretches of games.

    Even with those turnovers the game was 17-21 and the offense repeatedly was given golden field position only to **** it away time and again. This SB loss falls squarely on the offense, Ben and the coaches, IMO.
    turnovers just happen sometimes-Ben doesn't throw alot.**** happens they are still a very good football team! plain and god**** simple

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    turnovers just happen sometimes-Ben doesn't throw alot.**** happens they are still a very good football team! plain and god**** simple
    The team is very talented but again, my point is the Steelers need to get better in a lot of areas and yesterday was the proof in the puddin'.

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    The O-line was the lone bright spot on offense in this game. Played a hell of a game. The one bad gaffe was they were somewhat responsible for Ben's first INT.

    Ben was bad. Made a couple throws but overall my opinion of him may have gone down just a tad. Still obviously a great QB but I was really disappointed in his performance in this game.

    Lebeau did a decent job, the defense really tightened up midway through the game but allowing that 30 yard completion on 3rd and 10 was a killer.

    [HIGH-LIGHT]Tomlin and Arians did a bad job. Sorry, folks, but they did. Preparation, gameplan, etc[/HIGH-LIGHT].
    Did you read the game plan? Since you have become the 'resident hater' on this board, please explain exactly how both Tomlin and Arians did not prepare the Steelers for the game.

    In reality, LeBeau's defense had 2 chances to stop GB after 2 of the turnovers, yet allowed GB to score two TDs (50+ yard drives). As you said, with 6+ minutes left, the defense had GB 3rd and 10 with a chance to force a punt, yet gave up the first down and subsequently a FG. LeBeau's defense let the team down as much as anything.

    What about Mendenhall's fumble? Was that Arian's or Tomlin's fault?

    What about the special teams and the 2 penalties on kickoffs? Was that Tomlin's fault?

    It seems that all you can do is complain about Tomlin and Arians. Get some new material, please.

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    Did you read the game plan? Since you have become the 'resident hater' on this board, please explain exactly how both Tomlin and Arians did not prepare the Steelers for the game.

    In reality, LeBeau's defense had 2 chances to stop GB after 2 of the turnovers, yet allowed GB to score two TDs (50+ yard drives). As you said, with 6+ minutes left, the defense had GB 3rd and 10 with a chance to force a punt, yet gave up the first down and subsequently a FG. LeBeau's defense let the team down as much as anything.

    What about Mendenhall's fumble? Was that Arian's or Tomlin's fault?
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    What about the special teams and the 2 penalties on kickoffs? Was that Tomlin's fault?[/HIGH-LIGHT]

    It seems that all you can do is complain about Tomlin and Arians. Get some new material, please.
    He sure better take some responsibility for that, especially when it becomes a pattern (which it has). Why didn't the Packers commit any stupid, bone-headed penalties like that? Maybe because they were better disciplined? When something becomes a pattern, that points back to coaching just as much, if not more, than on the players.

    Lebeau definitely could've done a better job with his gameplan. But those turnovers are momentum changers, especially in a game as big as the Super Bowl.

    The offense deserves the most blame for this game, IMO. 3 Turnovers, one returned for a TD. 3 points in the 1st half until the final drive. Sluggish throughout the ENTIRE game. No no-huddle until the last 2 minutes of the game. Inexcusable. The offense was repeatedly given great field position with the score 17-21 and didn't do anything with it, etc.

    The team started off timid, sluggish, ill-prepared, it's like the Steelers were the team that had never been to the SB before. An embarrassing showing from coaches on down. Wasted TO's in the 2nd half, a horrible decision to attempt a 52 yard FG, the list goes on.

    I complain about Tomlin and Arians for legitimate reasons, sorry you disagree. And I sure as hell will not stop complaining about Arians until he improves (yeah, right) or he's gone.

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    He sure better take some responsibility for that, especially when it becomes a pattern (which it has). Why didn't the Packers commit any stupid, bone-headed penalties like that? Maybe because they were better disciplined? When something becomes a pattern, that points back to coaching just as much, if not more, than on the players.
    I agree with you here. Nothing ****es you off more than stupid *** penalties like Mundy and Fox committed...more so Fox because were on life support at that point, and it had nothing to do with the play.....maybe you get away with that stuff if you play the rest of the game perfect, but not when they're part of a list screwups.....the responsiblity to make sure the playes have the discipline to prevent that **** is squarely on the coaches.......
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