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    2011 NFL Free Agent Defensive Backs
    By: Roshan Bhagat
    Top Cornerbacks:

    Champ Bailey (DEN) – With the Broncos in a period of transition, this may very well be Champ Bailey’s final season in Denver. While injuries have lessened his effectiveness the last couple years, he returned to form this season to stay among the league’s 5 best corners. There have been no talks of a contract extension so far, but Champ remains committed to returning to the Broncos if the interest is mutual.

    Nnamdi Asomugha (OAK) – It should say something about the importance of statistics when a player can have an All-Pro season, yet not achieve minimal performance marks, which renders the rest of his contract null and void. The Raiders are unable to place the franchise tag on Asomugha, making the league’s best corner the prize of free agency. There’s some buzz that he wants to go to a Super Bowl contender such as the Jets or Packers (where he has ties with Woodson). The Packers seem like an unlikely destination given their strong, highly paid secondary and the Jets may want to pursue him, but that would leave holes in their roster elsewhere. This will be the most exciting story to follow this offseason.

    Brent Grimes (ATL) – Grimes had a fantastic season for an improved Falcons defense. Going into the final week, he’s one back of the leader in deflected passes. As an undrafted player, he’s worked his way and improved each season to become one of the league’s better corners now. With the secondary struggles in Atlanta over the past few years, they’ll show their appreciation for Grimes in the offseason.

    Carlos Rogers (WAS) – Rogers has been a solid cover corner for years now and one of the leaders in Washington’s secondary. Still, I’ve never seen anyone in the league with worse hands than Rogers. An average set of hands would have allowed him at least a couple more picks per season and that’s why he doesn’t generally get the credit he deserves. Some Redskins fans will cringe if the Redskins bring him back, but in reality, they could do much worse from a starting corner.

    Johnathan Joseph (CIN) – The Bengals’ corners awakened in 2009 to help lead a good pass defense, but 2010 turned out to be a different story. Both Joseph and Hall regressed and the results in the Bengals secondary showed. Joseph is physical and aggressive and good in any scheme. If the Bengals do hit him with the franchise tag, Joseph has said he’ll sign it on the first day, though he’s holding out hope that the two sides can reach a deal before that point.



    Ronde Barber (TB) – Though Barber and the Buccaneers haven’t discussed a new contract, he’s returned to playing at a high level and Coach Raheem Morris has given Barber plenty of praise asking him to return to the team in 2011. It should just be a matter of getting the business side sorted out if Barber decides he wants to continue playing.

    Antonio Cromartie (NYJ) – Cromartie is one of several big names hitting the market this year for the Jets. He hasn’t panned out as the elite playmaker many media outlets expected he would opposite Darrelle Revis, but he has given the Jets some flexibility at cornerback. Cromartie’s stiffness and long strides makes him an ideal candidate to be victimized by smaller, elite route running receivers, but he’s effective defending down the field. Because Kyle Wilson hasn’t lived up to expectations, the Jets may look to re-sign him with more urgency.

    Ike Taylor (PIT) – Ike Taylor has been the lone, consistent cornerback for the Steelers over the past 5+ years. His ability to shadow receivers effectively and come up in run support has allowed the Steelers to do a little more creatively up front. With a lack of depth behind him, it would be surprising to see the Steelers let Ike Taylor to leave, even though he has lost a step.

    Richard Marshall (CAR) – Marshall has been okay in coverage over the years, but good in run support. He won’t be at the top of the Panthers priority list, but if they do offer him a fair long-term deal, Marshall is ready to sign immediately.

    Other Notable Free Agents:




    Brian Williams (ATL)
    Chris Carr (BAL)
    Fabian Washington (BAL)
    Josh Wilson (BAL)
    Drayton Florence (BUF)
    Richard Marshall (CAR)
    Corey Graham (CHI)
    Eric Wright (CLE)
    CC Brown (DET)
    Brandon McDonald (DET)
    Chris Houston (DET)
    Josh Bell (GB)
    Jason Allen (HOU)
    Travis Daniels (KC)
    Brandon Carr (KC)
    Al Harris (MIA)
    Lito Sheppard (MIN)
    Frank Walker (MIN)
    Kyle Arrington (NE)
    Usama Young (NO)
    Drew Coleman (NYJ)
    Stanford Routt (OAK)
    William Gay (PIT)
    Paul Oliver (SD)
    Dashon Goldson (SF)
    Kelly Jennings (SEA)
    Roy Lewis (SEA)
    Justin King (STL)
    Roderick Hood (TEN)
    Phillip Buchanon (WAS)


    Safeties:

    Quintin Mikell (PHI) – It looks like the Eagles will be set at safety if they can re-sign Quintin Mikell at strong safety next to rookie Nate Allen at free safety. Mikell hasn’t been as impressive this season as last, but is still one of the league’s better starting strong safeties. The Eagles secondary has struggled this year and will look to bring back one of their most consistent pieces in the back end.

    Roman Harper (NO) – The Saints feel they have something going in the secondary and their top 10 defense reflects just that. The entire defense was snubbed from the Pro Bowl, but the tandem of Malcolm Jenkins and Roman Harper at safety is about as good as it gets. Jenkins, a converted corner, has developed into a fine coverage safety, while Roman Harper is a great hitter and tough in run support. Aside from reinvesting in their offensive line, Harper will be one of the team’s highest priorities this season.

    Eric Weddle (SD) – Though Weddle hasn’t made too many impact plays this season, he’s been a great emerging player for them in the secondary. He’s a well-rounded player—which stems back from his days at Utah—who can play both the run and pass effectively. The Chargers have several expiring contracts, primarily on offense, but re-signing Weddle defensively seems like a solid logical bet.

    Dawan Landry (BAL) – Dawan Landry is having a bounce back season after a pair of disappointing ones in coverage. The Ravens had high expectations following a superb rookie season, but had been beaten over the top too often the next two years. Though he hasn’t made as many impact plays as his rookie year, or even last season, Landry has been far more consistent and is building off of his career high in tackles.

    Tanard Jackson (TB) – Jackson is an impressive young safety on the football field and figured to be a difference maker for the Buccaneers early this season. However, after the 2nd game, he was suspended indefinitely for his 3rd violation of the league’s substance abuse policy. The Buccaneers are standing behind him, but it comes as a big disappointment. He won’t be eligible to be reinstated until September 22, 2011, making him a big gamble for whoever looks to retain his services.

    Bernard Pollard (HOU) – The Texans had reason to be ecstatic over their free agent signing of 2009, who immensely improved the team’s run defense. This year has brought a different tune and shown why Pollard was cut from the Chiefs last year to begin with. While he’s still strong in run support, he’s been victimized more than any other Texan for touchdowns this season. His lousy pass defense is further accentuated by poor cornerback play. Pollard is a marginal safety, but can be a decent fill-in for a team with an already strong secondary, something the Texans cannot claim to have.

    Atari Bigby (GB) – Bigby has plenty of potential as a safety, but also embodies the definition of injury-prone. Rookie Morgan Burnett was playing well before his season-ending injury and Charlie Peprah has been more than adequate as his replacement. Peprah’s also a free agent, but should be a cheaper alternative to the hard-hitting Bigby.

    Other Notable Free Agents:
    Matt Ware (ARZ)
    Haruki Nakamura (BAL)
    Tom Zbikowski (BAL)
    George Wilson (BUF)
    Gerald Alexander (CAR)
    Chinedum Ndukwe (CIN)
    Gibril Wilson (CIN)
    Danieal Manning (CHI)
    Abram Elam (CLE)
    Sabby Piscitelli (CLE)
    Alan Ball (DAL)
    Gerald Sensabaugh (DAL)
    Charlie Peprah (GB)
    Anthony Smith (GB)
    Melvin Bullitt (IND)
    Sean Considine (JAC)
    Tyrell Johnson (MIN)
    Husain Abdullah (MIN)
    Brandon McGowan (NE)
    Jarrad Page (NE)
    Darren Sharper (NO)
    Michael Johnson (NYG)
    Deon Grant (NYG)
    Brodney Pool (NYJ)
    Eric Smith (NYJ)
    Lawyer Milloy (SEA)
    Reed Doughty (WAS)

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    Default Re: Free Agent Secondary Personel - Who would fit?

    We won't be touching the safeties but at CB. ANY of those guys listed in the Top 5 there are vast improvements over what we have. Even Cromartie.

    I'd like Asomugha but **** if he won't be expensive. We might have to clear some space and if we do then who? Ive got no idea what the cap is. I know the cap in the NFL is too high as it is which is something being *****ed about between owners ad the NFLPA but ive got no idea where we sit.

    I'd be surprised if the Jets sign him since they lack up front defensively the most. Their run defense and poor pass rush got exposed by the Steelers rag-tag OL. The Packers are the same way defensively. They're older in their secondary but outside of Matthews and Raji their front 7 isn't impressive. Had Ben played one of his better games, our Rag-Tag OL shut down any semblence of a pass rush the Packers had and abused their run Defense.

    Why did nobody mention the New England Patriots for Asomugha? I don't know if there's any rumors or not, but their Defense could use a bunch of help and as long as rady is still playing they are a legit Super Bowl contender.

    Outside of that, as far as SB contenders go, Steelers would make the most sense but we need to cap room
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    John Wilson did a decent job for Baltimore this year. I wonder what he might cost?

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    Side question....why do we have so much of a problem drafting/developing DB's? I mean this is a real issue. We took Troy in the first and I am not sure there was tons of developing there.....and we got Ike. There have been plenty of others that are just complete **** including Gay and McFadden. I mean we trade the Cards a 5th for McFadden when he got totally lit up by GB? And once again got lit up till he was hurt. WTF?

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    Side question....why do we have so much of a problem drafting/developing DB's? I mean this is a real issue. We took Troy in the first and I am not sure there was tons of developing there.....and we got Ike. There have been plenty of others that are just complete **** including Gay and McFadden. I mean we trade the Cards a 5th for McFadden when he got totally lit up by GB? And once again got lit up till he was hurt. WTF?

    the position coach should definitely shoulder some of the blame for that...


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    Crezdon Butler will be a solid CB as will Keenan Lewis. What is needed is for the next DB's coach to actually be able to coach. Other than Troy, every one of our DB's are allergic to the football and allow the receiver too big a cushion. They should have regular sessions catching passes from at least one of the QB's so that when they make a play on the ball in a game, they are actually a threat to catch it.
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    Crezdon Butler will be a solid CB as will Keenan Lewis
    Lewis hasn't shown much besides the ability to commit stupid penalties.
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    Nnamdi Asomugha....pay the money....it's worth it.

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    Nnamdi Asomugha....pay the money....it's worth it.

    signing other teams' expensive FAs simply isn't the Steeler Way, us pursuing Asomugha will happen at about the same time as:


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    signing other teams' expensive FAs simply isn't the Steeler Way, us pursuing Asomugha will happen at about the same time as:

    Things change....maybe it's a pipe dream but our secondary has always been the weakness....even with the likes of Troy. We need shut down corners that complement what LeBeau does. I think Asomugha does that. pay the money...**** it.

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    Things change....maybe it's a pipe dream but our secondary has always been the weakness....even with the likes of Troy. We need shut down corners that complement what LeBeau does. I think Asomugha does that. pay the money...**** it.
    I completely agree with our secondary being in great need of additional talent and that Asomugha will get a ridiculousky high contract from some team, it just won't be from the Steelers.

    in my opinion, we do need to use available cap money to re-sign Ike Taylor and LaMarr Woodley, draft a CB in either Rounds 1 or 2 and look for a mid-priced type of CB in free agency and hope to strike it big like we did with James Farrior.

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    Lewis hasn't shown much besides the ability to commit stupid penalties.
    The fact that Madison was getting playing time over Lewis should be a big red flag.

    It's obvious that this team cannot develop CB's, or else it the team must have an extremely unlucky streak of drafting and signing CB's that aren't any and cannot be developed. I'll go with the former.

    The good news is it looks like Ray Horton will be headed to Arizona. Yes! One down, one to go.

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    Lewis hasn't shown much besides the ability to commit stupid penalties.
    I agree

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    Nnamdi Asomugha....pay the money....it's worth it.
    not saying we can afford him but I don't think he will command as much money as the raiders threw at him, that's why they let him go.

    In the long term...don't forget...Troy will be up for contract talks....cap money will really be the issue for signing any DB's IMO.

    Prefer to gamble on the draft, even if we have to trade up some to get a ringer.

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    Lewis hasn't shown much besides the ability to commit stupid penalties.
    This is correct, he has committed some stupid penalties, but I remember Deshea Townsend doing the same thing his first couple of seasons and getting torched quite often as well. He ended up being a pretty solid corner for us for 5 or 6 seasons. Keenan has alot more athletic ability and the size to go with it and I believe he takes a big step forward next season. I believe the Steelers need to draft a CB early, but a DB coach who can teach will be a night/day difference over Horton with what's on the roster.
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    not saying we can afford him but I don't think he will command as much money as the raiders threw at him, that's why they let him go.

    the Raiders didn't let him go, Asomugha opted out of his contract so look for him to want even more than what the Raiders were gonna pay him.

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